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From: Cedric Le Goater <clg@fr.ibm.com>
To: Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>
Cc: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, frankeh@watson.ibm.com,
	haveblue@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH 00/13] Introduce task_pid api
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 00:15:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <437A6BF5.9040901@fr.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051115141146.5add977c.pj@sgi.com>

Paul Jackson wrote:

> Oh dear.  I'm drifting away from advocating a pid-range preallocation
> and toward thinking we need a more systematic approach, design and
> architecture.  This isn't just pids.  Simple range based preallocation
> won't help much on some of the other resources that we need to virtualize.

Ah ! you said the word: "virtualize".

> The Zap pods are sounding good to me right now, properly embedded
> in the kernel rather than hacking the syscall table via a module.

hacking the syscall table via a module is evil and does not work. You can't
hack pids in a signal siginfo that way, you won't support NPTL, etc.

> In any case, I am suspecting that starting the job in some sort
> of nice container should be a prerequisite for relocating or
> checkpoint/restarting the job.

Indeed. Did you ever think about using PAGG as a foundation for a
checkpoint/restart container ?

Aggregation and isolation are key requirements for checkpoint/restart. And
then, the next one that comes on the list is private namespace or
virtualization, depends how you call it :)

C.



  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-15 23:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-14 21:23 [RFC] [PATCH 00/13] Introduce task_pid api Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 01/13] Change pid accesses: drivers Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 02/13] Change pid accesses: most archs Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 03/13] Change pid accesses: filesystems Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 04/13] Change pid accesses: include/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 05/13] Change pid accesses: ipc Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 06/13] Change pid accesses: kernel/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 07/13] Change pid accesses: lib/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 08/13] Change pid accesses: mm/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 09/13] Change pid accesses: net/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 10/13] Change pid accesses: security/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 11/13] Change pid accesses: sound/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 12/13] Change pid accesses: ia64 and mips Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 23:08   ` Keith Owens
2005-11-16 11:58     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-16 13:53     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 13/13] Define new task_pid api Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 23:36 ` [RFC] [PATCH 00/13] Introduce " Paul Jackson
2005-11-15  1:01   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15  1:35     ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15  1:51     ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15  2:29       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15  3:37         ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15  5:15           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15  6:35             ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15  8:11               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15  9:06                 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 10:07                   ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-15 18:10                     ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 11:59                   ` Robin Holt
2005-11-15 13:32                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 14:37                     ` Hubertus Franke
2005-11-15 18:39                       ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 18:54                         ` Hubertus Franke
2005-11-15 19:00                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 19:17                     ` Hubertus Franke
2005-11-15 22:11                     ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 23:15                       ` Cedric Le Goater [this message]
2005-11-15 23:28                         ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 16:47             ` Greg KH
2005-11-15 17:08               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 17:33               ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-15  5:51   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-13 15:22     ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-16 19:36       ` Kyle Moffett
2005-11-16 20:36         ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-16 20:48           ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-19 23:30             ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-20 22:38               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-12-07 14:53                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-11-20 23:29               ` Nix
2005-11-16 21:07           ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-16 20:24       ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-15 13:34   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 11:17 ` Robin Holt
2005-11-15 12:01   ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-15 19:21 ` Ray Bryant
2005-11-15 19:41   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 20:30     ` Ray Bryant
2005-11-15 21:05       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 22:43         ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 22:55       ` Cedric Le Goater
2005-11-16  1:12         ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-07 14:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-12-07 17:47   ` Dave Hansen
2005-12-07 17:55     ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-07 18:09       ` Dave Hansen
2005-12-07 19:00         ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-07 19:42           ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-12-07 22:13           ` Dave Hansen
2005-12-07 22:20             ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-12 10:55               ` Dave Airlie
2005-12-19 14:04                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-12-07 19:19     ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-12-07 21:40       ` Dave Hansen
2005-12-07 22:17         ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-12-14 15:23           ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-14 13:40             ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-14 16:29               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-12-07 22:31           ` Dave Hansen
2005-12-07 22:51             ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-12-08  5:42             ` Jeff Dike
2005-12-08 10:09             ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-07 22:17       ` Cedric Le Goater
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-11-16  2:24 Hua Zhong (hzhong)
2005-11-16 17:52 ` Bernard Blackham

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