From: Nix <nix@esperi.org.uk>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>,
Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>,
"SERGE E. HALLYN [imap]" <serue@us.ibm.com>,
Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
frankeh@watson.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH 00/13] Introduce task_pid api
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 23:29:04 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87veym7vb3.fsf@amaterasu.srvr.nix> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051119233010.GA3361@spitz.ucw.cz> (Pavel Machek's message of "20 Nov 2005 08:17:48 -0000")
On 20 Nov 2005, Pavel Machek stated:
> Hi!
>> I also hate bloating types and making them sparse just for the hell of
>> it. It is seriously demoralizing to do a ps and see
>> 7011827128432950176177290 staring back at you. :)
>
> Well, doing cat /var/something/foo.pid, and seeing pid of unrelated process
> is wrong, too... especially if you try to kill it....
I'd venture to say that anything using multiple pid namespaces should be
mounting its own private /var/run subtree (and similar for other such
directories). Consider it as similar to the problem of colliding PIDs on
multiple physical hosts, or on a host and a pile of UMLs it's running:
the solution there, too, is to unshare /var/run (by not NFS-exporting it
in the latter two cases, by private mounts in the former).
(Isn't this PID namespace stuff meant for chroots anyway?)
--
`Y'know, London's nice at this time of year. If you like your cities
freezing cold and full of surly gits.' --- David Damerell
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-11-20 23:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-11-14 21:23 [RFC] [PATCH 00/13] Introduce task_pid api Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 01/13] Change pid accesses: drivers Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 02/13] Change pid accesses: most archs Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 03/13] Change pid accesses: filesystems Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 04/13] Change pid accesses: include/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 05/13] Change pid accesses: ipc Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 06/13] Change pid accesses: kernel/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 07/13] Change pid accesses: lib/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 08/13] Change pid accesses: mm/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 09/13] Change pid accesses: net/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 10/13] Change pid accesses: security/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 11/13] Change pid accesses: sound/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 12/13] Change pid accesses: ia64 and mips Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 23:08 ` Keith Owens
2005-11-16 11:58 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-16 13:53 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 13/13] Define new task_pid api Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 23:36 ` [RFC] [PATCH 00/13] Introduce " Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 1:01 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 1:35 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 1:51 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 2:29 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 3:37 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 5:15 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 6:35 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 8:11 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 9:06 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 10:07 ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-15 18:10 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 11:59 ` Robin Holt
2005-11-15 13:32 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 14:37 ` Hubertus Franke
2005-11-15 18:39 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 18:54 ` Hubertus Franke
2005-11-15 19:00 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 19:17 ` Hubertus Franke
2005-11-15 22:11 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 23:15 ` Cedric Le Goater
2005-11-15 23:28 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 16:47 ` Greg KH
2005-11-15 17:08 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 17:33 ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-15 5:51 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-13 15:22 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-16 19:36 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-11-16 20:36 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-16 20:48 ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-19 23:30 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-20 22:38 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-12-07 14:53 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-11-20 23:29 ` Nix [this message]
2005-11-16 21:07 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-16 20:24 ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-15 13:34 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 11:17 ` Robin Holt
2005-11-15 12:01 ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-15 19:21 ` Ray Bryant
2005-11-15 19:41 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 20:30 ` Ray Bryant
2005-11-15 21:05 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 22:43 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 22:55 ` Cedric Le Goater
2005-11-16 1:12 ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-07 14:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-12-07 17:47 ` Dave Hansen
2005-12-07 17:55 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-07 18:09 ` Dave Hansen
2005-12-07 19:00 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-07 19:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-12-07 22:13 ` Dave Hansen
2005-12-07 22:20 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-12 10:55 ` Dave Airlie
2005-12-19 14:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-12-07 19:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-12-07 21:40 ` Dave Hansen
2005-12-07 22:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-12-14 15:23 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-14 13:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-14 16:29 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-12-07 22:31 ` Dave Hansen
2005-12-07 22:51 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-12-08 5:42 ` Jeff Dike
2005-12-08 10:09 ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-07 22:17 ` Cedric Le Goater
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2005-11-16 2:24 Hua Zhong (hzhong)
2005-11-16 17:52 ` Bernard Blackham
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