[Xenomai-core] Official logo

[Xenomai-core] Official logo

[Jan Kiszka]

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Hi all,

is the Xenomai logo on Bruno's site now the one going to be official? No
objections from my side (as I said: I like it), just to avoid confusions.

If so, Bruno, do you have some vector graphic version at hand? EPS, SVG,
whatever?

Thanks,
Jan


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Re: [Xenomai-core] Official logo

[Marco Cavallini]

>is the Xenomai logo on Bruno's site now the one going to be official? No
>objections from my side (as I said: I like it), just to avoid confusions.

What is the link to Bruno's site (and logo) ?
TIA

Marco Cavallini
Koan s.a.s. - Bergamo - ITALIA
Embedded and Real-Time Software Engineering
www.koansoftware.com    |    www.klinux.org

Re: [Xenomai-core] Official logo

[Jan Kiszka]

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Marco Cavallini wrote:
>> is the Xenomai logo on Bruno's site now the one going to be official? No
>> objections from my side (as I said: I like it), just to avoid confusions.
> 
> What is the link to Bruno's site (and logo) ?

Sorry, should have reposted it:

http://snail.fsffrance.org/www.xenomai.org/index.php

Jan


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Re: [Xenomai-core] Official logo

[Bruno Rouchouse]

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On 11/16/05, Marco Cavallini <rtai@domain.hid> wrote:
>
> >is the Xenomai logo on Bruno's site now the one going to be official? No
> >objections from my side (as I said: I like it), just to avoid confusions.
>
> What is the link to Bruno's site (and logo) ?
> TIA


The URL is : http://snail.fsffrance.org/www.xenomai.org/index.php

It should be reachable directly via http://www.xenomai.org but I still have
some problems with Apache configuration for setting up clean URL in order to
replace "http://snail.fsffrance.org/www.xenomai.org/" by "
http://www.xenomai.org".

As far as the logo is concerned, I should be able to provide the project
with a vector type image in order for anyone to reuse it in documents or
slides.

Finally, it has been reported a problem with the search engine in the API
documentation. As Gilles wrote me, it is probably due to a lack of php
support on the gna platform. We are going to work on that and probably
transfer the whole doc stuff on the same server as the web site. This should
be done soon...

Don't hesitate if you have any comments or suggestions about any of these
subjects.

Regards,

--
Bruno Rouchouse

Marco Cavallini
> Koan s.a.s. - Bergamo - ITALIA
> Embedded and Real-Time Software Engineering
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Re: [Xenomai-core] Official logo

[Dmitry Adamushko]

Hi Bruno,

I have a few remarks on the new web-site :)

- lots of blank space at the bottom/left/right side of the page (width is 
about 3 cm. approx.) err.. is it really necessary (functionality or 
design-wise)? ok, it's difficult to argue on the design side since it's, 
well, very subjective :)

- "Main menu" is not that easily accessable. e.g. I need to scroll the page a 
bit down in order to get access to the login form or even (when my mozilla 
has a "personal toolbar" switched on) - to the "Development Source Code" 
sub-menu

- default font is too small and a bit faded (grey on white background or white 
on gray one)

- Opera and Mozilla show some news/topic headers adjusted differently. 
Actually, everything is left-adjusted with Mozilla and some parts are 
centered with Opera, e.g. it may look like:

								Home 	
Xenomai v2.0.1 	
Written by Administrator    	
						Sunday, 13 November 2005

Ok, it's not that important and likely easily fixable.


- the picture of sky with "Real-Time framework for Linux" and "NewsFlash" box 
take too much space (almost a whole bottom half of the page). I would not say 
that part is so informative and so "deserves" that amount of space.


that's what I have in my mind at the moment :o)

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Best regards,
Dmitry

Re: [Xenomai-core] Official logo

[Bruno Rouchouse]

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Hi Dmitry,

first of all and before I answer each one of your points, you have to know
that I used for the website a CMS called Joomla. The template has been found
on Internet in order to save time on webdesign which requires real design
skills. My goal was to set up a, let's say, enough good looking website as
soon as possible.

That said, CMS have their advantages as well as drawbacks in the sense that
they are not always very easy to customize. Of course it is just PHP
combined with HTML but it takes time to tune everything because web
technologies suck :) You change one little thing here and the whole layout
of the page is messed up (and I don't even talk about the different versions
of browsers !)

So let's examine the points now :

On 11/16/05, Dmitry Adamushko <dmitry.adamushko@domain.hid> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Bruno,
>
> I have a few remarks on the new web-site :)
>
> - lots of blank space at the bottom/left/right side of the page (width is
> about 3 cm. approx.) err.. is it really necessary (functionality or
> design-wise)? ok, it's difficult to argue on the design side since it's,
> well, very subjective :)



On the left: it depends on the length of the header of the article, sorry
but can't do anything about that beside resizing the whole table. Is it
really disturbing ?
On the right side, it is normal because this area is reserved for adding
logos, special ads etc. It is not used at the moment.
All in one: yes you may be right and I guess I could get rid of this area
and resize then the whole thing to avoid blank areas.

- "Main menu" is not that easily accessable. e.g. I need to scroll the page
> a
> bit down in order to get access to the login form or even (when my mozilla
> has a "personal toolbar" switched on) - to the "Development Source Code"
> sub-menu


Don't really understant that one ! I use a laptop with 15in screen and don't
have this problem. What screen size and resolution do you use ? As far as I
am concerned, the whole website is visible on an entire page.

- default font is too small and a bit faded (grey on white background or
> white
> on gray one)


I used the template as it is (I didn't change the CSS). I trust webdesigners
for that and I'm not sure black fonts would look any better. I can try
though.

- Opera and Mozilla show some news/topic headers adjusted differently.
> Actually, everything is left-adjusted with Mozilla and some parts are
> centered with Opera, e.g. it may look like:
>
> Home
> Xenomai v2.0.1
> Written by Administrator
> Sunday, 13 November 2005
>
> Ok, it's not that important and likely easily fixable.


I didn't try the website on all browsers. I will have a look at this
particular point.

- the picture of sky with "Real-Time framework for Linux" and "NewsFlash"
> box
> take too much space (almost a whole bottom half of the page). I would not
> say
> that part is so informative and so "deserves" that amount of space.


Again, the template has been designed by professionals, some people may like
it others don't ;) The most important thing is that the load time has to be
short. As far as the size is concerned, I don't want to change it at the
moment since the banner will for sure be redesigned in the near future (just
need the idea for that). I guess we can make it a bit smaller then.

that's what I have in my mind at the moment :o)


Thanks for the remarks.


Regards,

Bruno

> ---
> Best regards,
> Dmitry
>

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Re: [Xenomai-core] Official logo

[Dmitry Adamushko]

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>
> I have a few remarks on the new web-site :)
>
> - lots of blank space at the bottom/left/right side of the page (width is
> about 3 cm. approx.) err.. is it really necessary (functionality or
> design-wise)? ok, it's difficult to argue on the design side since it's,
> well, very subjective :)
>
>
> On the left: it depends on the length of the header of the article,
> sorry but can't do anything about that beside resizing the whole
> table. Is it really disturbing ?
> On the right side, it is normal because this area is reserved for
> adding logos, special ads etc. It is not used at the moment.
> All in one: yes you may be right and I guess I could get rid of this
> area and resize then the whole thing to avoid blank areas.

I am sorry if my description was not clear. The "table" with useful
information seems to be centered and it takes about 3/5 of the screen width
while 1/5 is left as blank space on the left and another 1/5 - on the
right. I'd suggest, if it's possible of course, to resize the page so it
may take about 4/5 of the screen width and adjust it to the left in the
same time. In such a case, there is still 1/5 of the blank scree on the
right for banners, etc.

now:  [ 1/5 : blank space] [ 3/5 : useful data ] [ 1/5 : blank space (for
banners) ]

alternative: [ 4/5 : useful data ] [ 1/5 : blank space (for banners) ]


>
> - "Main menu" is not that easily accessable. e.g. I need to scroll the
page a
> bit down in order to get access to the login form or even (when my
mozilla
> has a "personal toolbar" switched on) - to the "Development Source Code"
> sub-menu
>
> Don't really understant that one ! I use a laptop with 15in screen
> and don't have this problem. What screen size and resolution do you
> use ? As far as I am concerned, the whole website is visible on an
> entire page.

It looks fine on my 19" (1280:1024) screen at work and the whole page is
(almost) visible. I use a laptop with 13,3" (1024:768) at home and the page
there looks differently (I may do a screenshot later). I wonder how it
looks like on a generic 15" tube-monitor (800:600) :o)

>
> - default font is too small and a bit faded (grey on white background or
white
> on gray one)
>
> I used  the template as it is (I didn't change the CSS). I trust
> webdesigners for that and I'm not sure black fonts would look any
> better. I can try though.

Don't worry about that, it's too subjective in any case :)


>
> - Opera and Mozilla show some news/topic headers adjusted differently.
> Actually, everything is left-adjusted with Mozilla and some parts are
> centered with Opera, e.g. it may look like:
>
>                                                                 Home
> Xenomai v2.0.1
> Written by Administrator
>                                                 Sunday, 13 November 2005
>
> Ok, it's not that important and likely easily fixable.
>
> I didn't try the website on all browsers. I will have a look at this
> particular point.

It doesn't matter so much really.


>
> - the picture of sky with "Real-Time framework for Linux" and "NewsFlash"
box
> take too much space (almost a whole bottom half of the page). I would not
say
> that part is so informative and so "deserves" that amount of space.
>
> Again, the template has been designed by professionals,  some people
> may like it others don't ;) The most important thing is that the
> load time has to be short. As far as the size is concerned, I don't
> want to change it at the moment since the banner will for sure be
> redesigned in the near future (just need the idea for that). I guess
> we can make it a bit smaller then.

As I pointed out above, it looks much nicer on a bigger screen (but still
I'd make it smaller :)

Anyway, the main goal is not about getting a main prize for the best design
so don't pay too much attention to my  comments ;) Some things can be
always adjusted later.


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Best regards,
Dmitry

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Re: [Xenomai-core] Official logo

[Martin Hansen]

On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 14:38 +0100, Bruno Rouchouse wrote:

> 
> The URL is : http://snail.fsffrance.org/www.xenomai.org/index.php
> 
Well I have a small comment too. On the frontpage there is a boc with
"welcome to Xenomai" and in the bootom of this box there is a link
saying "read more" but when following this link i get the same text as
is in the frontpage bax, only now on its own page.
My point being, that there is no more to read.


And a socond thing that I guess is not Your task. I would really like to
se some description on the skin concept.


-- 
Med venlig hilsen/mojn/regards
Martin Hansen
Center for Software Innovation
Stenager 2, DK-6400 Sønderborg, Web: www.cfsi.dk

Re: [Xenomai-core] Official logo

[Jan Kiszka]

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Bruno Rouchouse wrote:
> ...
> Don't hesitate if you have any comments or suggestions about any of these
> subjects.
> 

A section for links to related projects and other stuff would be nice. I
would have a few to offer:

 o http://rtfirewire.berlios.de
 o http://developer.berlios.de/projects/usb4rt
 o http://www.rtnet.org
 o http://www.rts.uni-hannover.de/xenomai/lxr
 o http://www.rts.uni-hannover.de/mitarbeiter/kiszka/rtaddon

And there are certainly more. :)

Jan



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