Re: [parisc-linux] HCRX-24 and missing consoles on my C200

Re: [parisc-linux] HCRX-24 and missing consoles on my C200

[Grant Grundler]

On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 06:05:58PM +0100, Fabio Bizzi wrote:
> Hi Everybody!   :)
> 
> Yesterday I've got a monitor and I've connected it to my C200.
> At the boot I've selectet 1280x1024@75Hz VESA and the screen is 
> correctly displayed.
> The Graphic adapter is an HCRX-24 (A4071B) on GSC.
> The distribution is a Sarge with etch kernel 2.6.12-1
> The system boots correctly, but no one consolle is displayed on the 
> monitor only a blank screen (no other problems), I've checked inittab 
> and it's ok with all the consoles started!
> Here some DMESG output:
> 
> Kernel command line: root=/dev/sda5 HOME=/ console=tty0 sti=8/4 
> sti_font=VGA8x16 TERM=linux palo_kernel=2/vmlinux
> 
> 14. Coral SGC Graphics at 0xf8000000 [10/8] { 10, 0x0, 0x004, 0x00077 }
> 
> STI GSC/PCI core graphics driver Version 0.9a
>     id 2bcb015a-9a02587, conforms to spec rev. 8.04
> STI init_graph failed (ret -1, errno 258)
> sti: probe of 10:8 failed with error 1

This has never worked and I don't know why.
See:
	http://lists.debian.org/debian-hppa/2003/10/msg00073.html
	http://lists.debian.org/debian-hppa/2005/02/msg00120.html

> Complete dmesg is attached.
> 
> I've also tried to change boot args in palo from sti=8/4 to sti=10/0 but 
>  it didin't worked!

I've previously asserted one does NOT need the sti= parameter if
there is only gfx card in the system and it's being used as the
firmware console. I don't know if that's still true.

> At Parisc-Linux Hardware Database is reported that Coral SGC Graphics is 
> supported and the version is the same "0x0,0x4,0x77" 
> (http://hwdb.parisc-linux.org/view.php?type=padevice&name=Coral%20SGC%20Graphics)
> 
> So, why this damned kernel does not initialize it? :)

STI firmware is failing to initialize itself, not the kernel
initializing the card.

> P.S. I've experienced some mail server problems, i'm sorry for eventual 
> duouble posts!

Double would have been nice. ;)
Next time, check the mailing list archives to determine if a particular
email reached the list(s).

ciao,
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Re: [parisc-linux] HCRX-24 and missing consoles on my C200

[Fabio Bizzi]

Grant Grundler wrote:
> This has never worked and I don't know why.
> See:
> 	http://lists.debian.org/debian-hppa/2003/10/msg00073.html
> 	http://lists.debian.org/debian-hppa/2005/02/msg00120.html

Thank You Grant, helpfully as usual. :)
Please, can you suggest to me any video card that is working on a C200 
with linux (24 bpp)?

> STI firmware is failing to initialize itself, not the kernel
> initializing the card.

I'm bit confused about it, what do you mean with "the firmware is 
failing to initialize itself"?

>>P.S. I've experienced some mail server problems, i'm sorry for eventual 
>>duouble posts!
> 
> 
> Double would have been nice. ;)
> Next time, check the mailing list archives to determine if a particular
> email reached the list(s).
> 

I'm really sorry for this annoyng issue, next time I'll do as you suggested.

I've asked some help to the list owner.

Thank you again!

Ciao.

	Fabio.


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Re: [parisc-linux] HCRX-24 and missing consoles on my C200

[Kyle McMartin]

On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 11:01:30AM -0700, Grant Grundler wrote:
> > STI GSC/PCI core graphics driver Version 0.9a
> >     id 2bcb015a-9a02587, conforms to spec rev. 8.04
> > STI init_graph failed (ret -1, errno 258)
> > sti: probe of 10:8 failed with error 1
>

Someone should probably turn on debugging. Edit
drivers/video/sticore.h and change the initial #if 0 to #if 1 and
rebuild and boot.

As far as I know, this is failing the initial call to STI init_graph,
I suspect either it doesn't like the default init values, or something
is not quite right when setting up the glob_cfg. As I understand it,
we set up the glob_cfg structures with nothing but the region pointers,
and then call init_graph to set up the rest of the context which is passed
between every further called STI function.

Or the STI rom is completely broken on this card and HP-UX uses software
instead of the firmware routines.

I think I have a HCRX here (A4070 with A4072), I can try and fix this
but not until at least January.

Cheers,
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Re: [parisc-linux] HCRX-24 and missing consoles on my C200

[Grant Grundler]

On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 07:03:52PM +0100, Fabio Bizzi wrote:
> >STI firmware is failing to initialize itself, not the kernel
> >initializing the card.
> 
> I'm bit confused about it, what do you mean with "the firmware is 
> failing to initialize itself"?

STI is a seperate firmware from PDC and IODC. We have to invoke
the initializaton functions from the OS to get it started.
I'm not STI expert though. And we do have public documentation
for STI that you are "encouraged" to read :^)

	http://ftp.parisc-linux.org/docs/arch/sti.pdf

And sorry, I don't know offhand if any 24bpp graphics cards will work.
Perhaps some are listed in the parisc graphics FAQ or
http://wiki.parisc-linux.org/.

> I'm really sorry for this annoyng issue, next time I'll do as you suggested.

It's not that bad...don't lose any sleep over it.

> Thank you again!

welcome.

ciao!
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Re: [parisc-linux] HCRX-24 and missing consoles on my C200

[Andy Walker]

Fabio wrote (repeatedly ;-)
 > Hi Everybody!   :)
 >
 > Yesterday I've got a monitor and I've connected it to my C200.
 > At the boot I've selectet 1280x1024 at 75Hz VESA and the screen is
 > correctly displayed.
 > The Graphic adapter is an HCRX-24 (A4071B) on GSC.
 > The distribution is a Sarge with etch kernel 2.6.12-1
 > The system boots correctly, but no one consolle is displayed on the
 > monitor only a blank screen (no other problems), I've checked inittab
 > and it's ok with all the consoles started!
 > Here some DMESG output:
 >
 > Kernel command line: root=/dev/sda5 HOME=/ console=tty0 sti=8/4
 > sti_font=VGA8x16 TERM=linux palo_kernel=2/vmlinux
 >
 > 14. Coral SGC Graphics at 0xf8000000 [10/8] { 10, 0x0, 0x004, 0x00077}
 >
 > STI GSC/PCI core graphics driver Version 0.9a
 >      id 2bcb015a-9a02587, conforms to spec rev. 8.04
 > STI init_graph failed (ret -1, errno 258)
 > sti: probe of 10:8 failed with error 1
 >

First things first - this ain't really a Coral SGC at all. Its a
Hyperbowl card (HCRX-24/A4071B). The lazy ***s in the HP graphics
hardware group reused the card identifiers!

The "init_graph failed" is worrying - that same card with the same id
is successfully detected and initialized in my B132L, and I'm pretty
sure the same was true in my C180 (kernel 2.6.11-rc1-pa4).

 > I've also tried to change boot args in palo from sti=8/4 to sti=10/0
 > but it didin't worked!

That ought to be sti=10/8 according to your dmesg. But as Grant said, it
shouldn't strictly be needed as long as there's just the one card in the 
box.

 > At Parisc-Linux Hardware Database is reported that Coral SGC Graphics 
 > is supported and the version is the same "0x0,0x4,0x77"
 > (http://hwdb.parisc-linux.org/view.php?
 >       type=padevice&name=Coral%20SGC%20Graphics)

Ignore this - believe me, you don't have a Coral SGC.

 > Thanks!!!
 >
 > P.S. I've experienced some mail server problems, i'm sorry for
 > eventual duouble posts!

I sent Helge Deller an A4071B a while back so he could work on the
stifb driver when he had time. I guess he hasn't had time.

I'm gonna try a couple of tests on the B132L this evening - first
thing is to make the Hyperbowl the console and see what happens.

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Re: [parisc-linux] HCRX-24 and missing consoles on my C200

[Grant Grundler]

On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 01:29:13PM -0500, Kyle McMartin wrote:
> Or the STI rom is completely broken on this card and HP-UX uses software
> instead of the firmware routines.

HPUX *never* supported this card on C-class boxes.
See page 157 (pdf page #) of C200 owners manual:
NOTICE: The A4077A Color Graphics Card, A4078A Dual Color Graphics Card,
        A4079B HCRX-8Z graphics adapter, and the A4071B HCRX-24 graphics
        adapter with the A4072A Z Accelerator attached are not supported
        in the Model C160/C180.

getting it working might be quite "challenging". :)

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Re: [parisc-linux] HCRX-24 and missing consoles on my C200

[Kyle McMartin]

On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 11:54:38AM -0700, Grant Grundler wrote:
> HPUX *never* supported this card on C-class boxes.
> See page 157 (pdf page #) of C200 owners manual:
> NOTICE: The A4077A Color Graphics Card, A4078A Dual Color Graphics Card,
>         A4079B HCRX-8Z graphics adapter, and the A4071B HCRX-24 graphics
>         adapter with the A4072A Z Accelerator attached are not supported
>         in the Model C160/C180.
> 
> getting it working might be quite "challenging". :)

I think I've already taken the torch on enough challenging HP graphics
problems... mumble. I'll pass on this one.

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Re: [parisc-linux] HCRX-24 and missing consoles on my C200

[Stuart Brady]

On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 01:29:13PM -0500, Kyle McMartin wrote:
> I think I have a HCRX here (A4070 with A4072), I can try and fix this
> but not until at least January.

This looks like the same card that I have:

1. Coral SGC Graphics at 0xf4000000 [0] { 10, 0x0, 0x004, 0x00077 }
...
STI GSC/PCI core graphics driver Version 0.9a
id 2bcb015a-9a02587, conforms to spec rev. 8.04
graphics card name: HPA4071B_LZ

I tested this recently on my 715/100:

http://lists.parisc-linux.org/pipermail/parisc-linux/2005-November/027654.html

(Worked fine, except for a few small glitches.)
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Re: [parisc-linux] HCRX-24 and missing consoles on my C200

[Andy Walker]

> On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 11:01:30AM -0700, Grant Grundler wrote:
>> > STI GSC/PCI core graphics driver Version 0.9a
>> >     id 2bcb015a-9a02587, conforms to spec rev. 8.04
>> > STI init_graph failed (ret -1, errno 258)
>> > sti: probe of 10:8 failed with error 1
>
> Someone should probably turn on debugging. Edit
> drivers/video/sticore.h and change the initial #if 0 to #if 1 and
rebuild and boot.
>
> As far as I know, this is failing the initial call to STI init_graph, I
suspect either it doesn't like the default init values, or something is
not quite right when setting up the glob_cfg. As I understand it, we set
up the glob_cfg structures with nothing but the region pointers, and
then call init_graph to set up the rest of the context which is
passed
> between every further called STI function.
>
> Or the STI rom is completely broken on this card and HP-UX uses software
instead of the firmware routines.
>
> I think I have a HCRX here (A4070 with A4072), I can try and fix this
but not until at least January.
>
> Cheers,
> 	Kyle
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Hi folks,

Here's a datapoint with 2.6.15-rc5-pa1 on a B132L

Linux version 2.6.15-rc5-pa1 (root@weasel) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Gentoo Linux
3.3.5-r1, pie-8.7.7)) #1 Wed Dec 7 23:02:54 CET 2005

Kernel command line: root=/dev/sda2 sti=8/8 stifb=bpp:0 console=tty0
sti_font=VGA8x16 palo_kernel=2/boot/vmlinux

Found devices:
15. Coral SGC Graphics at 0xf4000000 [8/8] { 10, 0x0, 0x004, 0x00077 } 16.
Gecko GSC Core Graphics at 0xf8000000 [8/24] { 10, 0x0, 0x016, 0x00085 },
additional addresses: 0xf0011000

STI GSC/PCI core graphics driver Version 0.9a
    id 2bcb015a-9a02587, conforms to spec rev. 8.04
    graphics card name: HPA4071B
    id 2d08c0a7-9a02587, conforms to spec rev. 8.07
    graphics card name: INTERNAL_EG_1280
sticon: Initializing STI text console.
Console: switching to colour STI console 160x64
Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 160x64
fb0: stifb 1280x1024-32 frame buffer device, HPA4071B, id: 2bcb015a, mmio:
0xf4100000
fb1: stifb 1280x1024-8 frame buffer device, INTERNAL_EG_1280, id:
2d08c0a7, mmio:
0xf8100000

Note that the A4071B/HCRX24 gets detected just fine. Its set in PDC as
the console path, and also via the sti=8/8 parameter.

Nothing crashes, but the console is unusable. Most of the output is
black on black, though I get bits of text in magenta, yellow and green
depending on the intended colour. Tux has a bright green background and
is otherwise pretty psychedelic. Back to Vis-EG for the time being.

As far as A4071B on C-Class goes, my company ran 50-60 C110's with that
card and never had any trouble (HP-UX 10.20). I'm pretty sure I've had
one in my C180 and it behaved exactly as it does in the B132L. If I get
time I'll check tonight. C180 and C200 are basically the same Raven
architecture, so if there's a general problem with initializing the card
on Ravens it should show up.

Fabio: have you got the latest firmware on that C200? (apologies if you've
already mentioned that before.)

ftp://ftp.itrc.hp.com/firmware_patches/hp/cpu/PF_CC2X0063.txt
ftp://ftp.itrc.hp.com/firmware_patches/hp/cpu/PF_CC2X0063

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Re: [parisc-linux] HCRX-24 and missing consoles on my C200

[Stuart Brady]

On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 11:56:32AM +0100, Andy Walker wrote:
> Note that the A4071B/HCRX24 gets detected just fine. Its set in PDC as
> the console path, and also via the sti=8/8 parameter.
> 
> Nothing crashes, but the console is unusable. Most of the output is
> black on black, though I get bits of text in magenta, yellow and green
> depending on the intended colour. Tux has a bright green background and
> is otherwise pretty psychedelic. Back to Vis-EG for the time being.

Have you tried running X, and then switching back to the console?  That
at least gets it working for me...  I wonder which devices are affected
by this?  What about the A4071A?

I've tried reading the stifb source but I'm quite baffled by it. :-(
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Re: [parisc-linux] HCRX-24 and missing consoles on my C200

[Helge Deller]

Hi all,

On Thursday 08 December 2005 18:39, Stuart Brady wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 11:56:32AM +0100, Andy Walker wrote:
> > Note that the A4071B/HCRX24 gets detected just fine. Its set in PDC as
> > the console path, and also via the sti=8/8 parameter.
> > 
> > Nothing crashes, but the console is unusable. Most of the output is
> > black on black, though I get bits of text in magenta, yellow and green
> > depending on the intended colour. Tux has a bright green background and
> > is otherwise pretty psychedelic. Back to Vis-EG for the time being.
> 
> Have you tried running X, and then switching back to the console?  That
> at least gets it working for me...  I wonder which devices are affected
> by this?  What about the A4071A?

Hi all,

I just committed a patch to stifb in kernel 2.6.15-rc6-pa1.
Could you please try this one? It works for me... :-)

Stuart's hint with starting X and then switching back again pointed to a bug in the palette handling of stifb, which I hopefully fixed now.

X11 still only shows me 3/4 of the screen, but this seems to be another problem....

Regards,
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Re: [parisc-linux] HCRX-24 and missing consoles on my C200

[Stuart Brady]

On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 04:39:43PM +0100, Helge Deller wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I just committed a patch to stifb in kernel 2.6.15-rc6-pa1.
> Could you please try this one? It works for me... :-)
> 
> Stuart's hint with starting X and then switching back again pointed to
> a bug in the palette handling of stifb, which I hopefully fixed now.

Ooh!  I'll test this...  Unfortunately, I'm compiling on a 715/100 so
bear with me for a moment. :)

> X11 still only shows me 3/4 of the screen, but this seems to be
> another problem....

Max Grabert found the fix for that... put "DefaultFbBpp 32" in the
"Screen" section of your xorg.conf file.  I'm not sure if that's a bug
in stifb or not.  If not, perhaps you could argue that there's a bug in
xorg or the framebuffer code.

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Re: [parisc-linux] HCRX-24 and missing consoles on my C200

[Fabio Bizzi]

Helge Deller wrote:
> I just committed a patch to stifb in kernel 2.6.15-rc6-pa1.
> Could you please try this one? It works for me... :-)

I'm sorry, but I didn't undestrand if you have fixed my problem with 
HCRX-24? :)

If yes the kernel with your patch is aivailable on cvs.parisc-linux.org 
or I've to patch the source and compile it?

Thank you.

Ciao.

	Fabio.

Re: [parisc-linux] HCRX-24 and missing consoles on my C200

[Helge Deller]

Hello Fabio,

On Monday 19 December 2005 19:08, Fabio Bizzi wrote:
> Helge Deller wrote:
> > I just committed a patch to stifb in kernel 2.6.15-rc6-pa1.
> > Could you please try this one? It works for me... :-)
> 
> I'm sorry, but I didn't undestrand if you have fixed my problem with 
> HCRX-24? :)

Probably not.
Your main problem is that you see this message:

STI GSC/PCI core graphics driver Version 0.9a
     id 2bcb015a-9a02587, conforms to spec rev. 8.04
STI init_graph failed (ret -1, errno 258)
sti: probe of 10:8 failed with error 1

"init_graph" is a graphic card firmware function, which seems to not work on your system.
Some HP firmwares have support to "patch" the graphic card firmware before executing "init_graph".
This is probably not the case for your c200.

So, please check if your machine runs the latest HP-C200 firmware.
For this please read the PARISC-Linux FAQ at http://www.parisc-linux.org/faq/index.html#PDCupdate ("How can I check if the PDC (firmware) revision is the latest?").

Additionally I will try write some patch-code during the next weeks, which might get your card working even on the C200 and other machines. Stay tuned.
 
> If yes the kernel with your patch is aivailable on cvs.parisc-linux.org 
> or I've to patch the source and compile it?

2.6.15-rc6-pa1 is currently beeing built.
During the next hour I assume it should be finished and you may download it from here: http://cvs.parisc-linux.org/download/linux-2.6/
(I assume a B180 might be close to your c200 ?).

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Re: [parisc-linux] HCRX-24 and missing consoles on my C200

[Andy Walker]

Helge Deller wrote:
> Hello Fabio,
> 
> On Monday 19 December 2005 19:08, Fabio Bizzi wrote:
>> Helge Deller wrote:
>>> I just committed a patch to stifb in kernel 2.6.15-rc6-pa1.
>>> Could you please try this one? It works for me... :-)
>> I'm sorry, but I didn't undestrand if you have fixed my problem with 
>> HCRX-24? :)
> 
> Probably not.
> Your main problem is that you see this message:
> 
> STI GSC/PCI core graphics driver Version 0.9a
>      id 2bcb015a-9a02587, conforms to spec rev. 8.04
> STI init_graph failed (ret -1, errno 258)
> sti: probe of 10:8 failed with error 1
> 
> "init_graph" is a graphic card firmware function, which seems to not work on your system.
> Some HP firmwares have support to "patch" the graphic card firmware before executing "init_graph".
> This is probably not the case for your c200.
> 
> So, please check if your machine runs the latest HP-C200 firmware.
> For this please read the PARISC-Linux FAQ at http://www.parisc-linux.org/faq/index.html#PDCupdate ("How can I check if the PDC (firmware) revision is the latest?").
> 
> Additionally I will try write some patch-code during the next weeks, which might get your card working even on the C200 and other machines. Stay tuned.
>  
>> If yes the kernel with your patch is aivailable on cvs.parisc-linux.org 
>> or I've to patch the source and compile it?
> 
> 2.6.15-rc6-pa1 is currently beeing built.
> During the next hour I assume it should be finished and you may download it from here: http://cvs.parisc-linux.org/download/linux-2.6/
> (I assume a B180 might be close to your c200 ?).
> 
> Helge

I'll give it a spin on the B132. The C180 is in storage right now,
though with the cold weather we're having I could justify running
it purely as a heater ;-) That thing really generates some heat
when its chock of 64MB SIMMs.

-Andy

Re: [parisc-linux] HCRX-24 and missing consoles on my C200

[Matthew Wilcox]

On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 09:04:48PM +0100, Helge Deller wrote:
> 2.6.15-rc6-pa1 is currently beeing built.
> During the next hour I assume it should be finished and you may download it from here: http://cvs.parisc-linux.org/download/linux-2.6/
> (I assume a B180 might be close to your c200 ?).

Unfortunately not.  The B180 build has CCIO disabled, so it's much less
useful than it might otherwise be.  I keep threatening to rename the
b180_defconfig to c110_defconfig and enable CCIO, HPPB, ZALON, LASI_82596,
HIL, MUX and HARMONY.

Then I think I should just delete it and people with Raven-class
machines should just use the 32 build and be happy about it.

So in the meantime we keep building a not-very-useful config.


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Re: [parisc-linux] HCRX-24 and missing consoles on my C200

[Fabio Bizzi]

Helge Deller wrote:
>>I'm sorry, but I didn't undestrand if you have fixed my problem with 
>>HCRX-24? :)
> 
> Probably not.

Next Time! :)

> So, please check if your machine runs the latest HP-C200 firmware.

Done, I've updated PDC Firmware to the latest release when I bought the 
C200, actually It runs 6.3

> Additionally I will try write some patch-code during the next weeks, which might get your card working even on the C200 and other machines. Stay tuned.

You have all my thanks! :)

Thank You!

Ciao.

	Fabio.

Re: [parisc-linux] HCRX-24 and missing consoles on my C200

[Fabio Bizzi]

Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>>(I assume a B180 might be close to your c200 ?).
> 
> Unfortunately not.  The B180 build has CCIO disabled, so it's much less
> useful than it might otherwise be.  I keep threatening to rename the
> b180_defconfig to c110_defconfig and enable CCIO, HPPB, ZALON, LASI_82596,
> HIL, MUX and HARMONY.

Thank you, but I'm a bit cunfused, what is the kernel image that best 
suit my C200? (I've understand that 64Bit kernel is only useful if I 
have more than 3GB of RAM, so 32Bit kernel with working front-led is 
wonderfull for me! :) )

Thank You again.

Ciao.

	Fabio.


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Re: [parisc-linux] HCRX-24 and missing consoles on my C200

[Stuart Brady]

On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 05:07:17PM +0000, Stuart Brady wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 04:39:43PM +0100, Helge Deller wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I just committed a patch to stifb in kernel 2.6.15-rc6-pa1.
> > Could you please try this one? It works for me... :-)
> > 
> > Stuart's hint with starting X and then switching back again pointed to
> > a bug in the palette handling of stifb, which I hopefully fixed now.
> 
> Ooh!  I'll test this...  Unfortunately, I'm compiling on a 715/100 so
> bear with me for a moment. :)

Seems to work fine... except for a few black patches on Tux's feet.

I've tested using:

for n in 0 1; do
	for m in 0 4 1 5 2 6 3 7; do
		echo -e "\033[${n};3${m}mTesting\033[m"
	done
done

Works as expected.
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Re: [parisc-linux] HCRX-24 and missing consoles on my C200

[Helge Deller]

On Monday 19 December 2005 21:30, Stuart Brady wrote:
> > Ooh!  I'll test this...  Unfortunately, I'm compiling on a 715/100 so
> > bear with me for a moment. :)

BTW, I'm doing all PA-Linux development on my Athlon desktop and cross-compile the parisc-linux kernel (e.g. with ftp://ftp.parisc-linux.org/x86-xcompilers/xc-20040917-hppa32.tgz).
Then the Athlon PC runs a tftp-server and services the built kernel to the parisc servers. The kernel boots, but then has it's root directory on the local hard disk.
It's way faster than native compilation, and as benefit I can boot all my parisc machines with this one single kernel (build once, boot everywhere ;-)).

Helge


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