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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Cc: "Vinod Koul" <vinod.koul@intel.com>,
	"Niklas Söderlund" <niklas.soderlund+renesas@ragnatech.se>,
	linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, dmaengine@vger.kernel.org,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux@armlinux.org.uk,
	hch@infradead.org, dan.j.williams@intel.com,
	robin.murphy@arm.com, linus.walleij@linaro.org,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <k.kozlowski@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv9 0/6] dmaengine: rcar-dmac: add iommu support for slave transfers
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 14:22:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4397626.d3mSLX4nFk@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5489283.7nVYvaYEH8@avalon>

On Friday, September 16, 2016 3:09:29 PM CEST Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > I wasn't thinking quite that far, though that is also a theoretical
> > problem. However, the simple solution would be to have a bit in the DMA
> > specifier let the driver know whether translation is needed or not.
> > 
> > The simpler case I was thinking of is where the entire DMA engine
> > either goes through an IOMMU or doesn't (depending on the integration
> > into the SoC), so we'd have to find out through some DT property
> > or compatible string in the DMA enginen driver.
> 
> Don't we already get that information from the iommus DT property ? If the DMA 
> engine goes through an IOMMU the property will be set, otherwise it will not.

It depends. A dmaengine typically at least has two DMA masters,
possibly more. It's likely that some dmaengine implementations are
connected to RAM through an IOMMU, but have direct access to an
I/O bus for the slave FIFOs.

> > > The problem is a bit broader than that, we'll also have an issue with DMA
> > > engines that have different channels served by different IOMMUs.
> > 
> > Do you mean a theoretical problem, or a chip that you already know exists?
> 
> That's theoretical. The problem I'm facing today is a DMA engine whose 
> channels are served by different ports of the same IOMMU. This works in a 
> suboptimal way because I have to keep all the IOMMU ports enabled regardless 
> of whether they're used or not, as the DMA engine and IOMMU APIs don't carry 
> channel information.

Ok

	Arnd

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: arnd@arndb.de (Arnd Bergmann)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCHv9 0/6] dmaengine: rcar-dmac: add iommu support for slave transfers
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 14:22:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4397626.d3mSLX4nFk@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5489283.7nVYvaYEH8@avalon>

On Friday, September 16, 2016 3:09:29 PM CEST Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > I wasn't thinking quite that far, though that is also a theoretical
> > problem. However, the simple solution would be to have a bit in the DMA
> > specifier let the driver know whether translation is needed or not.
> > 
> > The simpler case I was thinking of is where the entire DMA engine
> > either goes through an IOMMU or doesn't (depending on the integration
> > into the SoC), so we'd have to find out through some DT property
> > or compatible string in the DMA enginen driver.
> 
> Don't we already get that information from the iommus DT property ? If the DMA 
> engine goes through an IOMMU the property will be set, otherwise it will not.

It depends. A dmaengine typically at least has two DMA masters,
possibly more. It's likely that some dmaengine implementations are
connected to RAM through an IOMMU, but have direct access to an
I/O bus for the slave FIFOs.

> > > The problem is a bit broader than that, we'll also have an issue with DMA
> > > engines that have different channels served by different IOMMUs.
> > 
> > Do you mean a theoretical problem, or a chip that you already know exists?
> 
> That's theoretical. The problem I'm facing today is a DMA engine whose 
> channels are served by different ports of the same IOMMU. This works in a 
> suboptimal way because I have to keep all the IOMMU ports enabled regardless 
> of whether they're used or not, as the DMA engine and IOMMU APIs don't carry 
> channel information.

Ok

	Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-16 12:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-10 11:22 [PATCHv9 0/6] dmaengine: rcar-dmac: add iommu support for slave transfers Niklas Söderlund
2016-08-10 11:22 ` Niklas Söderlund
2016-08-10 11:22 ` Niklas Söderlund
2016-08-10 11:22 ` [PATCHv9 1/6] dma-mapping: add {map,unmap}_resource to dma_map_ops Niklas Söderlund
2016-08-10 11:22   ` Niklas Söderlund
2016-08-10 11:22   ` Niklas Söderlund
2016-08-10 11:22 ` [PATCHv9 2/6] dma-debug: add support for resource mappings Niklas Söderlund
2016-08-10 11:22   ` Niklas Söderlund
2016-08-10 11:22   ` Niklas Söderlund
2016-09-05  9:39   ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-09-05  9:39     ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-08-10 11:22 ` [PATCHv9 3/6] dma-mapping: add dma_{map,unmap}_resource Niklas Söderlund
2016-08-10 11:22   ` Niklas Söderlund
2016-08-10 11:22   ` Niklas Söderlund
     [not found]   ` <20160810112219.17964-4-niklas.soderlund+renesas-1zkq55x86MTxsAP9Fp7wbw@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-05  9:46     ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-09-05  9:46       ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-09-05  9:46       ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-08-10 11:22 ` [PATCHv9 4/6] arm: dma-mapping: add {map, unmap}_resource for iommu ops Niklas Söderlund
2016-08-10 11:22   ` Niklas Söderlund
2016-08-10 11:22   ` [PATCHv9 4/6] arm: dma-mapping: add {map,unmap}_resource " Niklas Söderlund
     [not found]   ` <20160810112219.17964-5-niklas.soderlund+renesas-1zkq55x86MTxsAP9Fp7wbw@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-23 15:31     ` Niklas Söderlund
2016-08-23 15:31       ` Niklas Söderlund
2016-08-23 15:31       ` Niklas Söderlund
2016-09-05  9:54       ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-09-05  9:54         ` [PATCHv9 4/6] arm: dma-mapping: add {map, unmap}_resource " Laurent Pinchart
2016-08-10 11:22 ` [PATCHv9 5/6] dmaengine: rcar-dmac: group slave configuration Niklas Söderlund
2016-08-10 11:22   ` Niklas Söderlund
2016-08-10 11:22   ` Niklas Söderlund
2016-08-10 11:22 ` [PATCHv9 6/6] dmaengine: rcar-dmac: add iommu support for slave transfers Niklas Söderlund
2016-08-10 11:22   ` Niklas Söderlund
2016-08-10 11:22   ` Niklas Söderlund
2016-09-05  9:52   ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-09-05  9:52     ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-09-05 10:37     ` Robin Murphy
2016-09-05 10:37       ` Robin Murphy
2016-09-05 10:37       ` Robin Murphy
2017-01-01 23:08     ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-01-01 23:08       ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-01-01 23:08       ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-01-09 15:42       ` Niklas Söderlund
2017-01-09 15:42         ` Niklas Söderlund
2017-01-09 15:42         ` Niklas Söderlund
     [not found] ` <20160810112219.17964-1-niklas.soderlund+renesas-1zkq55x86MTxsAP9Fp7wbw@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-10 17:37   ` [PATCHv9 0/6] " Vinod Koul
2016-08-10 17:37     ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-10 17:37     ` Vinod Koul
2016-09-15 16:26     ` Vinod Koul
2016-09-15 16:26       ` Vinod Koul
2016-09-15 16:26       ` Vinod Koul
2016-09-16  9:07       ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-16  9:07         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-16  9:07         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-16  9:48         ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-09-16  9:48           ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-09-16 10:36           ` Robin Murphy
2016-09-16 10:36             ` Robin Murphy
2016-09-16 10:36             ` Robin Murphy
2016-09-16 12:05             ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-09-16 12:05               ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-09-16 12:49               ` Robin Murphy
2016-09-16 12:49                 ` Robin Murphy
2016-09-16 12:49                 ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]                 ` <cea119f1-18d5-675d-ee33-c22b0c8e7693-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-16 13:01                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-09-16 13:01                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-09-16 13:01                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-09-16 12:02           ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-16 12:02             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-16 12:02             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-16 12:09             ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-09-16 12:09               ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-09-16 12:22               ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2016-09-16 12:22                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-16 12:58                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-09-16 12:58                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-09-23  7:25       ` Niklas Söderlund
2016-09-23  7:25         ` Niklas Söderlund
2016-09-23  7:25         ` Niklas Söderlund
2016-08-29 13:11   ` Haggai Eran
2016-09-26 16:47 ` Vinod Koul
2016-09-26 16:47   ` Vinod Koul
2016-09-26 16:47   ` Vinod Koul

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