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From: Peter Williams <pwil3058@bigpond.net.au>
To: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
Cc: Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: Fix adverse effects of NFS	client	on	interactive response
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 13:26:50 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43AA0EEA.8070205@bigpond.net.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1135172453.7958.26.camel@lade.trondhjem.org>

Trond Myklebust wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 08:36 -0500, Kyle Moffett wrote:
> 
>>On Dec 21, 2005, at 08:21, Trond Myklebust wrote:
>>
>>>...and if you stick in a faster server?...
>>>
>>>There is _NO_ fundamental difference between NFS and a local  
>>>filesystem that warrants marking one as "interactive" and the other  
>>>as "noninteractive". What you are basically saying is that all I/O  
>>>should be marked as TASK_NONINTERACTIVE.
>>
>>Uhh, what part of disk/NFS/filesystem access is "interactive"?  Which  
>>of those sleeps directly involve responding to user-interface  
>>events?  _That_ is the whole point of the interactivity bonus, and  
>>precisely why Ingo introduced TASK_NONINTERACTIVE sleeps; so that  
>>processes that are not being useful for interactivity could be moved  
>>away from TASK_NONINTERRUPTABLE, with the end result that the X- 
>>server could be run at priority 0 without harming interactivity, even  
>>during heavy *disk*, *NFS*, and *network* activity.  Admittedly, that  
>>may not be what some people want, but they're welcome to turn off the  
>>interactivity bonuses via some file in /proc (sorry, don't remember  
>>which at the moment).
> 
> 
> Then have io_schedule() automatically set that flag, and convert NFS to
> use io_schedule(), or something along those lines. I don't want a bunch
> of RT-specific flags littering the NFS/RPC code.

This flag isn't RT-specific.  It's used in the scheduling SCHED_NORMAL 
tasks and has no other semantic effects.

Peter
-- 
Peter Williams                                   pwil3058@bigpond.net.au

"Learning, n. The kind of ignorance distinguishing the studious."
  -- Ambrose Bierce

  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-22  2:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-21  6:00 [PATCH] sched: Fix adverse effects of NFS client on interactive response Peter Williams
2005-12-21  6:09 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-21  6:32   ` Peter Williams
2005-12-21 13:21     ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-21 13:36       ` Kyle Moffett
2005-12-21 13:40         ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-22  2:26           ` Peter Williams [this message]
2005-12-22 22:08             ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-22 22:33               ` Peter Williams
2005-12-22 22:59                 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-23  0:02                   ` Kyle Moffett
2005-12-23  0:25                     ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-23  3:06                       ` Peter Williams
2005-12-23  9:39                         ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-23 10:49                           ` Peter Williams
2005-12-23 12:51                             ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-23 13:36                               ` Peter Williams
2006-01-02 12:09                                 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-12-23 19:07                           ` Lee Revell
2005-12-23 21:08                             ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-23 21:17                               ` Lee Revell
2005-12-23 21:23                                 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-23 22:04                                   ` Lee Revell
2005-12-23 22:10                                     ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-21 16:10         ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-21 20:36           ` Kyle Moffett
2005-12-21 22:59             ` Peter Williams
2005-12-21 16:11     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-21 22:49       ` Peter Williams
2006-01-02 11:01     ` Helge Hafting
2006-01-02 23:54       ` Peter Williams
2006-01-04  1:25         ` Peter Williams
2006-01-04  9:40           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2006-01-04 12:18             ` Con Kolivas
2006-01-04 10:31               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2006-01-04 21:51           ` Peter Williams
2006-01-05  6:31             ` Mike Galbraith
2006-01-05 11:31               ` Peter Williams
2006-01-05 14:31                 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-01-05 23:13                   ` Peter Williams
2006-01-05 23:33                     ` Con Kolivas
2006-01-06  0:02                       ` Peter Williams
2006-01-06  0:08                         ` Con Kolivas
2006-01-06  0:40                           ` Peter Williams
2006-01-06  7:39                     ` Mike Galbraith
2006-01-07  1:11                       ` Peter Williams
2006-01-07  5:27                         ` Mike Galbraith
2006-01-07  6:34                           ` Peter Williams
2006-01-07  8:54                             ` Mike Galbraith
2006-01-07 23:40                               ` Peter Williams
2006-01-08  5:51                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-01-07  9:30                           ` Con Kolivas
2006-01-07 10:23                             ` Mike Galbraith
2006-01-07 23:31                             ` Peter Williams
2006-01-08  0:38                               ` Con Kolivas

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