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From: Flemming Frandsen <ff@nrvissing.net>
To: lartc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [LARTC] even bandwith for users on 2 newtworks
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:25:51 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43CC0F5F.2050301@nrvissing.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43cab7ca69c72@wp.pl>

Alexey Toptygin wrote:
> No, attaching to the input is just as easy as to the output. The reason 
> that isn't implemented is that it wouldn't really be useful.

You are full of it.

What everybody who asks for shaping want is mainly ingress shaping and 
it works just fine.

When TCP starts to notice that packets are getting lost it will throttle 
down and transmit slower, just like any non-idiotic protocol, because 
that's the way the Internet works.

You are right that the packets that have already traversed the DSL line 
have consumed bandwidth that can never be reclaimed, but the point is 
that once you start dropping packets then fewer will follow and the 
situation will stabilize.


The fact remains that ingress shaping is immensely useful and that it works.

Linux traffic shaping doesn't support it out of the box (pre 2.6.16) and 
that's because it was hard(er) to implement, not because it's not useful 
it is in the real world.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-01-16 21:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-15 20:59 [LARTC] even bandwith for users on 2 newtworks Hariett Jones
2006-01-15 21:42 ` Flemming Frandsen
2006-01-15 23:25 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2006-01-16 11:45 ` Flemming Frandsen
2006-01-16 13:01 ` Alexey Toptygin
2006-01-16 21:25 ` Flemming Frandsen [this message]
2006-01-16 21:41 ` Peter Surda
2006-01-17  0:06 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2006-01-17 13:27 ` Flemming Frandsen

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