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From: Carl-Daniel Hailfinger <c-d.hailfinger.devel.2006@gmx.net>
To: lartc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [LARTC] even bandwith for users on 2 newtworks
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 00:06:24 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43CC3500.3050301@gmx.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43cab7ca69c72@wp.pl>

Flemming Frandsen schrieb:
> Alexey Toptygin wrote:
> 
>> No, attaching to the input is just as easy as to the output. The
>> reason that isn't implemented is that it wouldn't really be useful.
> 
> 
> You are full of it.

If "it"="knowledge", then you're probably right.

> What everybody who asks for shaping want is mainly ingress shaping and
> it works just fine.
> 
> When TCP starts to notice that packets are getting lost it will throttle
> down and transmit slower, just like any non-idiotic protocol, because
> that's the way the Internet works.
> 
> You are right that the packets that have already traversed the DSL line
> have consumed bandwidth that can never be reclaimed, but the point is
> that once you start dropping packets then fewer will follow and the
> situation will stabilize.
> 
> The fact remains that ingress shaping is immensely useful and that it
> works.
> 
> Linux traffic shaping doesn't support it out of the box (pre 2.6.16) and
> that's because it was hard(er) to implement, not because it's not useful
> it is in the real world.

Please check your facts.
Since you only talk about dropping packets and never about queues, the
following has been available for years in mainline kernels:
http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.adv-filter.policing.html


Regards,
Carl-Daniel
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-01-17  0:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-15 20:59 [LARTC] even bandwith for users on 2 newtworks Hariett Jones
2006-01-15 21:42 ` Flemming Frandsen
2006-01-15 23:25 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2006-01-16 11:45 ` Flemming Frandsen
2006-01-16 13:01 ` Alexey Toptygin
2006-01-16 21:25 ` Flemming Frandsen
2006-01-16 21:41 ` Peter Surda
2006-01-17  0:06 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger [this message]
2006-01-17 13:27 ` Flemming Frandsen

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