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From: Hubertus Franke <frankeh@watson.ibm.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, vserver@list.linux-vserver.org,
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Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/20] Multiple instances of the process id namespace
Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 15:40:50 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43E7B452.2080706@watson.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m11wygnvlp.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>

Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> There have been several discussions in the past month about how
> to do a good job of implementing a subset of user space that
> looks like it has the system to itself.  Essentially making
> chroot everything it could be.  This is my take on what
> the implementation of a pid namespace should look like.
> 

Eric, this looks very good. The pspace internal implementation
is very similar to what I was working on objectifying the pidmap
etc. I was pursuing the same route in using find_pid()
functions as the means to distinguish pspaces rather then
actually virtualizing them.

But this code already goes so much further in many many aspects.
Kudos to you.
I am still going through some of the details, but this is an
excellent starting position.

> 
> What follows is a real patch set that is sufficiently complete
> to be used and useful in it's own right.  There are a few areas
> of the kernel where the patchset does not reach, mostly these
> cause the compile to fail.  In addition a good thorough review
> still needs to be done.  This patchset does paint a picture
> of how I think things should look.
> 
> From the kernel community at large I am asking:
>   Does the code look generally sane?

Yes, but I have one question for you...
Large parts of the patch are adding the pspace argument
to find_task_by_pid() and in many cases that argument is
current->pspace.
It might bring down the size of the patch if you
have

find_task_by_pid( pid )  {  return find_task_pidspace_by_pid ( current->pspace, pid ); }

and then only deal with the exceptional cases using find_task_pidspace_by_pid
when the pidspace is different..

> 
>   Does the use of clone to create a new namespace instance look
>   like the sane approach?
> 

At he surface it looks OK .. how does this work in a multi-threaded
process which does cloen ( CLONE_NPSPACE ) ?
We discussed at some point that exec is the right place to do it,
but what I get is that because this is the container_init task
we are OK !
A bit clarification would help here ...

> Hopefully this code is sufficiently comprehensible to allow a good
> discussion to come out of this.
> 

Yes

> Thanks for your time,
> 
> Eric

-- Hubertus


  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-02-06 20:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-06 19:19 [RFC][PATCH 0/20] Multiple instances of the process id namespace Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 19:22 ` [RFC][PATCH 01/20] pid: Intoduce the concept of a wid (wait id) Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 19:27   ` [RFC][PATCH 02/20] pspace: The parent process id of pid 1 is always 0 Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 19:29     ` [RFC][PATCH 03/20] pid: Introduce a generic helper to test for init Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 19:34       ` [RFC][PATCH 04/20] pspace: Allow multiple instaces of the process id namespace Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 19:36         ` [RFC][PATCH 05/20] sched: Fixup the scheduler syscalls to deal with pspaces Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 19:39           ` [RFC][PATCH 06/20] cad_pid: Fixup the cad_pid users to assume it is in the initial process id namespace Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 19:41             ` [RFC][PATCH 07/20] tty: Update the tty layer to work with pspaces Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 19:44               ` [RFC][PATCH 08/20] vt: Update the virtual console to handle pspaces Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 19:46                 ` [RFC][PATCH 09/20] ptrace: Update ptrace " Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 19:49                   ` [RFC][PATCH 10/20] capabilities: Update the capabilities code to " Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 19:51                     ` [RFC][PATCH 11/20] ioprio: Update ioprio " Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 19:54                       ` [RFC][PATCH 12/20] fcntl: Update fcntl to work with pspaces Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 19:57                         ` [RFC][PATCH 13/20] kthread: Update kthread " Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 19:59                           ` [RFC][PATCH 14/20] mm: Update vmscan " Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 20:00                             ` [RFC][PATCH 15/20] posix-timers: Update posix timers " Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 20:02                               ` [PATCH 16/20] nfs: Don't use pids to track the lockd server process Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 20:03                                 ` [RFC][PATCH 17/20] usb: Fixup usb so it works with pspaces Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 20:05                                   ` [RFC][PATCH 18/20] posix-mqueue: Make mqueues work with pspspaces Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 20:07                                     ` [RFC][PATCH 19/20] pspace: Upcate the pid_max sysctl to work in a per pspace fashion Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 20:12                                       ` [RFC][PATCH 20/20] proc: Update /proc to support multiple pid spaces Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-10 20:40                                         ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-11 10:10                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 20:41                                   ` [RFC][PATCH 17/20] usb: Fixup usb so it works with pspaces Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-06 20:53                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-07 16:41         ` [RFC][PATCH 04/20] pspace: Allow multiple instaces of the process id namespace William Lee Irwin III
2006-02-07 17:05           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-10 20:30         ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-11  9:42           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-11 10:11           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-11 10:43           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-13  8:53             ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-13 16:40             ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-11 11:03           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-13  9:02             ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-13 21:31               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-13 23:41               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-11 11:57           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-13  9:22             ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-13 17:02               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-14  5:59                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-14  5:54               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-14 18:45                 ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-15 12:07                 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-15 13:31                   ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-16 13:44                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-20  9:27                       ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-20 17:04                         ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-21 16:29                           ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-21 23:23                             ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-20 11:29                     ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-20 12:34                       ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-20 14:11                         ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-20 15:08                           ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-03-01 22:06                             ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-02-15 18:40                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 19:56       ` [RFC][PATCH 03/20] pid: Introduce a generic helper to test for init Dave Hansen
2006-02-06 20:22         ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-07 15:08       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2006-02-07 15:17         ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 19:54   ` [RFC][PATCH 01/20] pid: Intoduce the concept of a wid (wait id) Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-06 20:23     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-07 17:39   ` Jeff Dike
2006-02-07 18:32     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-10 18:51   ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-11  9:25     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-13  8:43       ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-14  0:04         ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 20:40 ` Hubertus Franke [this message]
2006-02-06 20:51   ` [RFC][PATCH 0/20] Multiple instances of the process id namespace Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 21:07     ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-06 21:56       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-07  0:48 ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-07  5:14   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-07  9:33   ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-08  4:19     ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-02-08  4:28       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-08  4:51         ` Randy.Dunlap

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