From: Hubertus Franke <frankeh@watson.ibm.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/20] Multiple instances of the process id namespace
Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 16:07:04 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <43E7BA78.6030501@watson.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1ek2gi52a.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>
Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Hubertus Franke <frankeh@watson.ibm.com> writes:
>
>
>>find_task_by_pid( pid ) { return find_task_pidspace_by_pid ( current->pspace,
>>pid ); }
>>
>>and then only deal with the exceptional cases using find_task_pidspace_by_pid
>>when the pidspace is different..
>
>
> That is a possibility. However I want to break some eggs so that the
> users are updated appropriately. It is only by a strenuous act of
> will that I don't change the type of pid,tgid,pgrp,session.
>
> The size of the changes is much less important than being clear.
> So for I want find_task_by_pid to be an absolute interface.
>
Fair enough, valid answers .. I checked the patch and it would only take
19/33 instances out .. so not the end of the world.
>
>
>>> Does the use of clone to create a new namespace instance look
>>> like the sane approach?
>>>
>>
>>At he surface it looks OK .. how does this work in a multi-threaded
>>process which does cloen ( CLONE_NPSPACE ) ?
>>We discussed at some point that exec is the right place to do it,
>>but what I get is that because this is the container_init task
>>we are OK !
>>A bit clarification would help here ...
>
>
> Well the parent doesn't much matter. But the child must have a fresh
> start on all the groups of processes. As all other groupings known by
> a pid are per pspace, so they can't cross that line.
>
Now, on which kernel does this compile/work ?
Do you have a "helper" program you can share that starts/exec's an
app under a new container (uhmm, namespace). No point for us to
actually write that..
-- Hubertus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-02-06 21:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-02-06 19:19 [RFC][PATCH 0/20] Multiple instances of the process id namespace Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 19:22 ` [RFC][PATCH 01/20] pid: Intoduce the concept of a wid (wait id) Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 19:27 ` [RFC][PATCH 02/20] pspace: The parent process id of pid 1 is always 0 Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 19:29 ` [RFC][PATCH 03/20] pid: Introduce a generic helper to test for init Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 19:34 ` [RFC][PATCH 04/20] pspace: Allow multiple instaces of the process id namespace Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 19:36 ` [RFC][PATCH 05/20] sched: Fixup the scheduler syscalls to deal with pspaces Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 19:39 ` [RFC][PATCH 06/20] cad_pid: Fixup the cad_pid users to assume it is in the initial process id namespace Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 19:41 ` [RFC][PATCH 07/20] tty: Update the tty layer to work with pspaces Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 19:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 08/20] vt: Update the virtual console to handle pspaces Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 19:46 ` [RFC][PATCH 09/20] ptrace: Update ptrace " Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 19:49 ` [RFC][PATCH 10/20] capabilities: Update the capabilities code to " Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 19:51 ` [RFC][PATCH 11/20] ioprio: Update ioprio " Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 19:54 ` [RFC][PATCH 12/20] fcntl: Update fcntl to work with pspaces Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 19:57 ` [RFC][PATCH 13/20] kthread: Update kthread " Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 19:59 ` [RFC][PATCH 14/20] mm: Update vmscan " Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 20:00 ` [RFC][PATCH 15/20] posix-timers: Update posix timers " Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 20:02 ` [PATCH 16/20] nfs: Don't use pids to track the lockd server process Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 20:03 ` [RFC][PATCH 17/20] usb: Fixup usb so it works with pspaces Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 20:05 ` [RFC][PATCH 18/20] posix-mqueue: Make mqueues work with pspspaces Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 20:07 ` [RFC][PATCH 19/20] pspace: Upcate the pid_max sysctl to work in a per pspace fashion Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 20:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 20/20] proc: Update /proc to support multiple pid spaces Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-10 20:40 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-11 10:10 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 20:41 ` [RFC][PATCH 17/20] usb: Fixup usb so it works with pspaces Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-06 20:53 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-07 16:41 ` [RFC][PATCH 04/20] pspace: Allow multiple instaces of the process id namespace William Lee Irwin III
2006-02-07 17:05 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-10 20:30 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-11 9:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-11 10:11 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-11 10:43 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-13 8:53 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-13 16:40 ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-11 11:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-13 9:02 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-13 21:31 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-13 23:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-11 11:57 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-13 9:22 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-13 17:02 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-14 5:59 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-14 5:54 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-14 18:45 ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-15 12:07 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-15 13:31 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-16 13:44 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-20 9:27 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-20 17:04 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-21 16:29 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-21 23:23 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-20 11:29 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-20 12:34 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-20 14:11 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-20 15:08 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-03-01 22:06 ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-02-15 18:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 19:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 03/20] pid: Introduce a generic helper to test for init Dave Hansen
2006-02-06 20:22 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-07 15:08 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2006-02-07 15:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 19:54 ` [RFC][PATCH 01/20] pid: Intoduce the concept of a wid (wait id) Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-06 20:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-07 17:39 ` Jeff Dike
2006-02-07 18:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-10 18:51 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-11 9:25 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-13 8:43 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-14 0:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 20:40 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/20] Multiple instances of the process id namespace Hubertus Franke
2006-02-06 20:51 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 21:07 ` Hubertus Franke [this message]
2006-02-06 21:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-07 0:48 ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-07 5:14 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-07 9:33 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-08 4:19 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-02-08 4:28 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-08 4:51 ` Randy.Dunlap
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