Re: [ANN] Hamlib 1.2.5 released

Re: [ANN] Hamlib 1.2.5 released

[Ricardo Saiz Villoria]

Douglas Cole wrote:

 > Thanks so much for yours and others hard work Stephane, I wish I was a
 > programmer and could actually do something with Hamlib, but since I am
 > just a Linux user, and still have not figured out how to send commands
 > to my radio's (FT100d and FT847) using minicom, I am not able to
 > utilize them (hamlib)...
 >
 > But then again, I may be missing something, and just have not spent
 > enough time on this, but what I would like is to remotely control my
 > radio's with a graphical interface (ncurses) and have a PTT button on
 > the screen and running some sort of VOIP software so I can remotely
 > control and talk through my desktop pc via 802.11x  to my radio
 > remotely located at a location in an area where I can have large
 > antenna's .
 >
 > But then again, I guess I just need to spend more time on it, I
 > suppose all the tools are there, I just need to learn how to use
 > them...
 >
 > Any pointers on tools that may allow me to fulfill my dream?
 >
 > Oh and they have to be Linux tools, not Microsoft ones...
 >
 > tia for any input!
 > Doug
 > N7BFS
 > -


Hello

I am trying to do exactly the same thing. I cannot drill the walls in my
apartment so I will leave my rig (yaesu 817) close to the antenna, with
its serial port and mic/spk connected to an old pentium.

I have managed to make grig-hamlib work under debian 3.1 with my ft 817, 
see: http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1449631&forum_id=80395

A straight-through way to solve the audio link is gnomemeeting, which 
works very fine in a lan. You can even have the rig, swr meter or 
anything else monitored with a webcam. There are other ways to send 
audio between linux machines through a network, in a kind of "virtual 
soundcard", but I have not explored them.

As an alternative, you could use a wireless rs232 link via ISM 
transceivers and you could also send the audio with the help of a 
cordless phone just like here:

http://www.grynx.com/index.php/projects/siemens-skype/

regards

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Re: [ANN] Hamlib 1.2.5 released

[Douglas Cole]

On 2/27/06, Ricardo Saiz Villoria <rsaizv@yahoo.es> wrote:
> Hello
>
> I am trying to do exactly the same thing. I cannot drill the walls in my
> apartment so I will leave my rig (yaesu 817) close to the antenna, with
> its serial port and mic/spk connected to an old pentium.
>
> I have managed to make grig-hamlib work under debian 3.1 with my ft 817,
> see: http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1449631&forum_id=80395

I like the idea of Grig, but I think it requires running X and Gnome,
which I had hoped not to do, since what I am going to be doing will be
on a low bandwidth link, but I will give it a look and see if I can
run it via an VNC session, I was hoping to get something going with an
ncurses interface so that X did not have to be running...

>
> A straight-through way to solve the audio link is gnomemeeting, which
> works very fine in a lan. You can even have the rig, swr meter or
> anything else monitored with a webcam. There are other ways to send
> audio between linux machines through a network, in a kind of "virtual
> soundcard", but I have not explored them.
>
this is something I have considered, but then for that matter there
are allot of other ways to do it too, I was hoping for something that
did not require too many proggies 'strung' together, so that I could
make it run fairly easy in an emergency...


> As an alternative, you could use a wireless rs232 link via ISM
> transceivers and you could also send the audio with the help of a
> cordless phone just like here:
>
> http://www.grynx.com/index.php/projects/siemens-skype/

Since the proximity of the FT100d would be about 10 miles or greater,
I don't think the above would work for me, but is worth looking at, my
goal is to use an private 802.11b link via vpn tunnel, so all I would
have to link to the remote site would be TCP/IP, and then at the site
would be the pc and the radio and the interface between them. I was
hoping there might be something out there similar to what is being
done in the Microsoft Windows world with remote controlled radio's via
TCP/IP, but I guess its just not there with Linux yet.

I can't complain though, as you have indicated, all the tools are
there, I just need to figure out how to glue them all together to get
the results I need...

Thanks for the input!

73
Doug
N7BFS

Re: [ANN] Hamlib 1.2.5 released

[Patrick A. Ouellette]

On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 07:39:37AM -0800, Douglas Cole wrote:
> 
> On 2/27/06, Ricardo Saiz Villoria <rsaizv@yahoo.es> wrote:
> > Hello
> >
> > I am trying to do exactly the same thing. I cannot drill the walls in my
> > apartment so I will leave my rig (yaesu 817) close to the antenna, with
> > its serial port and mic/spk connected to an old pentium.
> >
> > I have managed to make grig-hamlib work under debian 3.1 with my ft 817,
> > see: http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1449631&forum_id=80395
> 
> I like the idea of Grig, but I think it requires running X and Gnome,
> which I had hoped not to do, since what I am going to be doing will be
> on a low bandwidth link, but I will give it a look and see if I can
> run it via an VNC session, I was hoping to get something going with an
> ncurses interface so that X did not have to be running...
> 

At the risk of sounding low tech, you could use a telnet/ssh session to
the remote PC and run rigctl to change settings.  Not the flashy
monitoring of grig or an ncurses interface, but it would get the job
done.

You still have to get the audio to and from the radio....

73,

Pat KB8PYM
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kb8pym@arrl.net                   Amateur Radio: KB8PYM 
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Re: [ANN] Hamlib 1.2.5 released

[Douglas Cole]

>
> At the risk of sounding low tech, you could use a telnet/ssh session to
> the remote PC and run rigctl to change settings.  Not the flashy
> monitoring of grig or an ncurses interface, but it would get the job
> done.
>
> You still have to get the audio to and from the radio....
>
> 73,
>
> Pat KB8PYM
> --

Thanks for the input Patrick, yes, that is probably my short-term
solution, and having the radio audio lines connected to some RF link,
but I wanted to remove that part of it, so my audio would have a
simpler route via VOIP/ROIP conversion, since I will already have that
802.11b link why not send it all over that link...

Anyway, some day I will get it up and running, I just wish I was smart
enough to roll my own software, you guys make it all sound so easy,
but unfortunately the cold reality for me, is that its not...

73 and thanks for the input!

--
Doug
N7BFS

Re: [ANN] Hamlib 1.2.5 released

[Patrick A. Ouellette]

On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 01:09:42PM -0800, Douglas Cole wrote:
> but I wanted to remove that part of it, so my audio would have a
> simpler route via VOIP/ROIP conversion, since I will already have that
> 802.11b link why not send it all over that link...
> 

Just ran across http://www.openh323.org

There is a command line H.323 client listed called OhPhone that might
handle the audio for you.

-- 

Patrick Ouellette                 pat@flying-gecko.net
kb8pym@arrl.net                   Amateur Radio: KB8PYM 
Living life to a Jimmy Buffett soundtrack
"Crank the amp to 11, this needs more cowbell - and a llama wouldn't hurt either"

Re: [ANN] Hamlib 1.2.5 released

[Ricardo Saiz Villoria]

Patrick A. Ouellette wrote:
> At the risk of sounding low tech, you could use a telnet/ssh session to
> the remote PC and run rigctl to change settings.  Not the flashy
> monitoring of grig or an ncurses interface, but it would get the job
> done.
> 
> You still have to get the audio to and from the radio....
> 
> 73,
> 
> Pat KB8PYM

It is easier than that: the hamlib can talk to grig by rpc via udp 
packets across a network. So the required network bandwidth is close to 
that of the rs232 link.

You can control your rig in these ways:

rigctl   : with commands
grig     : graphically; grig calls rigctl in the background
rpc.rigd : the daemon stays listening for udp packets
followed by:
grig -m 1901 -r <host>    : grig in local or remote machine
or:
rigctl -m 1901 -r <host>  : command line in local or remote machine

ophone and gnomemeeting both use h.323

For one-way audio broadcast you can use liveice/icecast and listen with 
an mp3 player as xmms.

73 Ricardo

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Re: [ANN] Hamlib 1.2.5 released

[Douglas Cole]

On 2/28/06, Ricardo Saiz Villoria <rsaizv@yahoo.es> wrote:
>
>
> Patrick A. Ouellette wrote:
> > At the risk of sounding low tech, you could use a telnet/ssh session to
> > the remote PC and run rigctl to change settings.  Not the flashy
> > monitoring of grig or an ncurses interface, but it would get the job
> > done.
> >
> > You still have to get the audio to and from the radio....
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Pat KB8PYM
>
> It is easier than that: the hamlib can talk to grig by rpc via udp
> packets across a network. So the required network bandwidth is close to
> that of the rs232 link.
>
> You can control your rig in these ways:
>
> rigctl   : with commands
> grig     : graphically; grig calls rigctl in the background
> rpc.rigd : the daemon stays listening for udp packets
> followed by:
> grig -m 1901 -r <host>    : grig in local or remote machine
> or:
> rigctl -m 1901 -r <host>  : command line in local or remote machine

So if I understand your input correctly Ricardo, as long as my network
can pass the udp along then I could have grig running on my local
desktop pc talking to a remote pc running rigctl and I could control
my FT100d via this type of control you show above?
And I could control PTT that way as well?
I guess I need to do some more reading, because I am still trying to
wrap my head around making that work, but I guess I need to piece it
all together and see if it will play.

This would be very good, then it would just be a matter of streaming
audio both ways when needed, I will look into ophone for that part...

Thanks very much for the ideas, this may come to some useable end
after all, if I can just glue it all together in some useable form :)

73
--
Doug
N7BFS

Re: [ANN] Hamlib 1.2.5 released

[Patrick A. Ouellette]

On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 04:03:03PM -0800, Douglas Cole wrote:
> 
> Thanks very much for the ideas, this may come to some useable end
> after all, if I can just glue it all together in some useable form :)
> 

If you do get it all working together, and can tear yourself away from
the radio long enough, you may be a good person to draft a HOWTO for
those who come after you.....

Just a thought :-)

Good Luck & 73

Pat KB8PYM
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kb8pym@arrl.net                   Amateur Radio: KB8PYM 
Living life to a Jimmy Buffett soundtrack
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Re: [ANN] Hamlib 1.2.5 released

[Curt, WE7U]

On Wed, 1 Mar 2006, Patrick A. Ouellette wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 04:03:03PM -0800, Douglas Cole wrote:
> >
> > Thanks very much for the ideas, this may come to some useable end
> > after all, if I can just glue it all together in some useable form :)
> >
>
> If you do get it all working together, and can tear yourself away from
> the radio long enough, you may be a good person to draft a HOWTO for
> those who come after you.....
>
> Just a thought :-)

Better write notes _as_ you do it, else all the nitty gritty details
will be forever lost in what we laughingly call human "memory".

--
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Re: [ANN] Hamlib 1.2.5 released

[Douglas Cole]

On 3/1/06, Curt, WE7U <archer@eskimo.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Mar 2006, Patrick A. Ouellette wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 04:03:03PM -0800, Douglas Cole wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks very much for the ideas, this may come to some useable end
> > > after all, if I can just glue it all together in some useable form :)
> > >
> >
> > If you do get it all working together, and can tear yourself away from
> > the radio long enough, you may be a good person to draft a HOWTO for
> > those who come after you.....
> >
> > Just a thought :-)
>
> Better write notes _as_ you do it, else all the nitty gritty details
> will be forever lost in what we laughingly call human "memory".

Thanks Curt, I am trying to get into the habit of doing that, since I
tend to "burn" my way through a project and end up trying many
different ways to get my goal accomplished, some things work, others
don't, and I tend to forget which ones did, and didn't, so keeping
notes as I go has been one of those things I am trying to force myself
to do, otherwise, yes, I lose it to my 'memory'...

Three foot by four foot 'post-it' sheets that I stick to the wall,
help me write down the flow of things, and I can see how I go about
doing something, but I am far from good at it, but I am trying...

Maybe back in the 70's when I was first exposed to programming in
Fortran and Cobol, if I had stuck with it rather than giving up in
frustration, maybe my mind would have a better handle on structuring
flow in my head, but I do have a hard time dealing with complex
systems that have many pieces all working together, unless I can draw
a diagram on the wall to keep me in check...

And yes, Patrick, documenting is one of those things I am trying hard
to improve upon, in my line of work it is one of the least attended to
by those I work with and have worked with, we are truly overwhelmed to
the point of not being given time to document what we do, and our work
suffers because of it.

Ok, end of break (yes I gave myself a break today!)...

73

--
Doug
N7BFS

[ANN] Hamlib 1.2.5 released

[Stephane Fillod]

Good news everyone!

Hamlib-1.2.5 has been released.

Hamlib provides a unified environment for the development of radio and
rotator control applications. Release 1.2.5 includes many improvements 
since last official version.  
 
Check it out at http://hamlib.org !  
 
New in 1.2.5:
* frontend API: support for clonable rigs 
  - rigmem: CSV format change 
  - rigctl: new send_cmd for protocol debugging purpose 
  - easy USB devices support 
* new models: AR8600, AR2700, DWT (DLL based under Windows,
		libusb based under other OS, need test) 
* fixes: big AOR update, AR7030, Orion, NRD-545, RX-320, 
	 FT-817, FT-990, TS-2000, Easycomm 
* port: BSD fix of parallel port support 
 
 
Download pages are accessible at http://sourceforge.net/projects/hamlib  
i386 rpms, .deb and Win32 DLL's coming soon.  
 
 
Please, test it out and report to hamlib-developer@lists.sourceforge.net  
Developers are also invited to join the Hamlib team by subscribing to
this mailing list. If your favorite rig is not in the supported list,
feel free to ask.
 
Many thanks to all the developers and testers who participated
in this release. They are listed in the AUTHORS file.

Have fun and let us know!  
 
73's de Stephane - F8CFE / the Hamlib team

Re: [ANN] Hamlib 1.2.5 released

[Douglas Cole]

On 2/26/06, Stephane Fillod <f8cfe@free.fr> wrote:
> Good news everyone!
>
> Hamlib-1.2.5 has been released.
>
> Hamlib provides a unified environment for the development of radio and
> rotator control applications. Release 1.2.5 includes many improvements
> since last official version.
>
> Check it out at http://hamlib.org !
>
> New in 1.2.5:
> * frontend API: support for clonable rigs
>   - rigmem: CSV format change
>   - rigctl: new send_cmd for protocol debugging purpose
>   - easy USB devices support
> * new models: AR8600, AR2700, DWT (DLL based under Windows,
>                 libusb based under other OS, need test)
> * fixes: big AOR update, AR7030, Orion, NRD-545, RX-320,
>          FT-817, FT-990, TS-2000, Easycomm
> * port: BSD fix of parallel port support
>
>
> Download pages are accessible at http://sourceforge.net/projects/hamlib
> i386 rpms, .deb and Win32 DLL's coming soon.
>
>
> Please, test it out and report to hamlib-developer@lists.sourceforge.net
> Developers are also invited to join the Hamlib team by subscribing to
> this mailing list. If your favorite rig is not in the supported list,
> feel free to ask.
>
> Many thanks to all the developers and testers who participated
> in this release. They are listed in the AUTHORS file.
>
> Have fun and let us know!
>
> 73's de Stephane - F8CFE / the Hamlib team

Thanks so much for yours and others hard work Stephane, I wish I was a
programmer and could actually do something with Hamlib, but since I am
just a Linux user, and still have not figured out how to send commands
to my radio's (FT100d and FT847) using minicom, I am not able to
utilize them (hamlib)...

But then again, I may be missing something, and just have not spent
enough time on this, but what I would like is to remotely control my
radio's with a graphical interface (ncurses) and have a PTT button on
the screen and running some sort of VOIP software so I can remotely
control and talk through my desktop pc via 802.11x  to my radio
remotely located at a location in an area where I can have large
antenna's .

But then again, I guess I just need to spend more time on it, I
suppose all the tools are there, I just need to learn how to use
them...

Any pointers on tools that may allow me to fulfill my dream?

Oh and they have to be Linux tools, not Microsoft ones...

tia for any input!
Doug
N7BFS