OMAP development on a student budget

OMAP development on a student budget

[Cina Hazegh]

Many apologies if this sort of question has been asked many times  
before, but I haven't been able to find this information on the web  
or in this lists' archives, so I am going to ask.

I am very interested in developing my own PCB that incorporates an  
OMAP processor. Does anyone on this list have any experience with  
doing this sort of thing, and if so, what does it take? Is it a  
reasonable task for someone with some solid PCB layout experience?

If so, which processors would I be able to obtain on a student  
budget? I've been able to find the OMAP5910 through Digi-key, but I'm  
interested in designing a board for one of the newer processors,  
since TI is warning that new designs should not be done for the 5910  
(which means to me that it will be discontinued soon).

I should point out, that my final goal is to provide the board layout  
and schematic in an open source fashion for other students and  
developers to learn from. Any help/information/guidance you can  
provide would be appreciated.

-- Cina Hazegh


___________________________________________________
Cina Hazegh, Graduate Student
University of California, Irvine --  Arts, Computation and Engineering
chazegh@uci.edu  |  http://cinahazegh.com | http://opencircuits.com

Re: OMAP development on a student budget

[lamikr]

>
> I should point out, that my final goal is to provide the board layout
> and schematic in an open source fashion for other students and
> developers to learn from. Any help/information/guidance you can
> provide would be appreciated.

Hi sorry not for asking to your questions...
But a little bit related but not overlapping to your plans. Hector Oron
is working (and has already made at least one version) on Livecd that is
meant for studying the embedded development. Here is info from the
session he held in this years fosdem from the subjetc.


        13u30-14u30 SETR LiveCD : A live tool for embedded development,
        by Hector Oron

In a educational enviroment, i decided a while ago to build a Debian
LiveCD distribution, so students could play/demo a little with free
software tools for embedded systems. As a result of my work, it was born
SETR LiveCD, it is built into a CD-R and it has :

    * Cross-compiler toolchain for m68k and arm.
    * ARMulator and XCopilot: ARM & m68k emulators. With uClinux demo
      included.
    * GDB, ddd debuggers.

This was my first built, afterwards, i've been working, not so hard, on
the distro, trying to add scratchbox, uClinux sources, and probably
latest development on Emdebian project, but this is not ready to
release, yet. So, this educational distro, is trying to become a utility
for professional embedded people, and it is an open project where
everybody is welcome to add, or ask for the tools that they use or need.
Due to a hardware failure, i have lost my site, where all development
was taking place,and i'm hopping to have some time available to put it
up again. Site url: http://setr.shows.it/

Mika

Re: OMAP development on a student budget

[Cina Hazegh]

Thanks! I'll definitely check this out. Is there a standard ARM board  
that this distribution is intended to be used for, or is the  
intention to be as general purpose as possible?

-- Cina Hazegh

On Mar 23, 2006, at 5:43 PM, lamikr wrote:

>
>>
>> I should point out, that my final goal is to provide the board layout
>> and schematic in an open source fashion for other students and
>> developers to learn from. Any help/information/guidance you can
>> provide would be appreciated.
>
> Hi sorry not for asking to your questions...
> But a little bit related but not overlapping to your plans. Hector  
> Oron
> is working (and has already made at least one version) on Livecd  
> that is
> meant for studying the embedded development. Here is info from the
> session he held in this years fosdem from the subjetc.
>
>
>         13u30-14u30 SETR LiveCD : A live tool for embedded  
> development,
>         by Hector Oron
>
> In a educational enviroment, i decided a while ago to build a Debian
> LiveCD distribution, so students could play/demo a little with free
> software tools for embedded systems. As a result of my work, it was  
> born
> SETR LiveCD, it is built into a CD-R and it has :
>
>     * Cross-compiler toolchain for m68k and arm.
>     * ARMulator and XCopilot: ARM & m68k emulators. With uClinux demo
>       included.
>     * GDB, ddd debuggers.
>
> This was my first built, afterwards, i've been working, not so  
> hard, on
> the distro, trying to add scratchbox, uClinux sources, and probably
> latest development on Emdebian project, but this is not ready to
> release, yet. So, this educational distro, is trying to become a  
> utility
> for professional embedded people, and it is an open project where
> everybody is welcome to add, or ask for the tools that they use or  
> need.
> Due to a hardware failure, i have lost my site, where all development
> was taking place,and i'm hopping to have some time available to put it
> up again. Site url: http://setr.shows.it/
>
> Mika

RE: OMAP development on a student budget

[Ishigami, Tatsuya]

Hello Cina,

 Probably, you already know the OSK5912, don't you?

	http://omap.spectrumdigital.com/osk5912/

 If you are looking forward to making the board itself, here
is the check list for you.

 - Comfortable with 6 ~ 10 layers design?
 - Comfortable with > 50 MHz signal routing?
 - Comfortable with  1.6[V] design for 50 ~150 [mA]?
 - Able to solder the BGA package?
 - Able to obtain the DDR for your quantity?
   (The LCD would be next difficult to get, if you plan it)
 - Do you (or your friend) have JTAG tools?

 If you are positive for these items, I believe you enjoy the
work itself, and it should be good experience.

 As for the device, try the OMAP5912, which is available
through the digi-key.

 Good luck,
 Ishigami

-----Original Message-----
From: Cina Hazegh
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 6:55 AM
To: linux-omap-open-source@linux.omap.com
Subject: OMAP development on a student budget

Many apologies if this sort of question has been asked many times  
before, but I haven't been able to find this information on the web  
or in this lists' archives, so I am going to ask.

I am very interested in developing my own PCB that incorporates an  
OMAP processor. Does anyone on this list have any experience with  
doing this sort of thing, and if so, what does it take? Is it a  
reasonable task for someone with some solid PCB layout experience?

If so, which processors would I be able to obtain on a student  
budget? I've been able to find the OMAP5910 through Digi-key, but I'm  
interested in designing a board for one of the newer processors,  
since TI is warning that new designs should not be done for the 5910  
(which means to me that it will be discontinued soon).

I should point out, that my final goal is to provide the board layout  
and schematic in an open source fashion for other students and  
developers to learn from. Any help/information/guidance you can  
provide would be appreciated.

-- Cina Hazegh


___________________________________________________
Cina Hazegh, Graduate Student
University of California, Irvine --  Arts, Computation and Engineering
chazegh@uci.edu  |  http://cinahazegh.com | http://opencircuits.com

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