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From: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
To: Philip Craig <philipc@snapgear.com>
Cc: netfilter-devel@lists.netfilter.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] drop ftp bounce attacks
Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 16:51:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <447715F7.5000409@trash.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44751CBF.8040906@snapgear.com>

Philip Craig wrote:
> On 05/25/2006 02:31 AM, Patrick McHardy wrote:
> 
>>The best solution would be to mark the packet INVALID and let the
>>user decide using the state match.
> 
> 
> Marking the packet INVALID is definitely better than always dropping
> it.
> 
> The reason I said fixing the ftp server is the best solution is
> that I'm not sure whether the ftp conntrack module can match on
> all possible port commands, taking into account fragmentation,
> reordering, and retransmits.
> 
> This is different from attacks against the firewall, in which the
> attack works only if the firewall recognizes the port command and
> creates an expectation.


Absolutely. I actually made a quite similar patch because of the
same reason (certification requirements), but in the end I don't
think its very useful for the reasons you mention above and because
this is absolutely not what connection tracking helpers are meant
for, people should use application layer proxies for this.

      reply	other threads:[~2006-05-26 14:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-24  4:04 [PATCH 0/4] netfilter patches for consideration philipc
2006-05-24  4:04 ` [PATCH 1/4] TCPMSS: dont drop packets philipc
2006-05-24 16:16   ` Patrick McHardy
2006-05-24 23:42     ` Philip Craig
2006-05-26 14:40       ` Patrick McHardy
2006-05-24  4:04 ` [PATCH 2/4] TCPMSS: clamp to input interface MTU too philipc
2006-05-24 16:18   ` Patrick McHardy
2006-05-24  4:04 ` [PATCH 3/4] log dropped ICMP redirects philipc
2006-05-24 16:26   ` Patrick McHardy
2006-05-25  2:34     ` Philip Craig
2006-05-26 14:49       ` Patrick McHardy
2006-05-24  4:04 ` [PATCH 4/4] drop ftp bounce attacks philipc
2006-05-24 16:31   ` Patrick McHardy
2006-05-25  2:55     ` Philip Craig
2006-05-26 14:51       ` Patrick McHardy [this message]

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