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From: Joe Lee <joelee724@gmail.com>
To: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] VMware Player
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 17:04:36 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4491CB64.30704@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0606152248550.7480@wbgn013.biozentrum.uni-wuerzburg.de>

Johannes Schindelin wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Joe Lee wrote:
>
>   
>>> You're right! However, as Julian pointed out: it is less than fascinating to
>>> work on a GUI, _especially_ if it is for the masses who tend to criticize
>>> without contributing*Footnote 1*.
>>>       
>> I am not sure I agree if that thought. It really depends on the mission or
>> goal of the project. In the case for QEMU, I am not sure what its goal/mission
>> is. Is the project just to scratch an itch to server a few people who needs
>> it? Is it to fill a void over what exist in commercial software? Or, is the
>> intent to develop something FREE and then offer some support service around
>> the product?
>>     
>
> As far as I know: Fabrice started the project because he had this idea 
> that translation should be faster than interpreting, and not much more 
> difficult.
>
> He proved his point. And many people actually use QEmu, which is all the 
> better.
>
>   
>> As far as users criticizing, that always going to be the case in Open 
>> Source - Show me a project where users don't criticize.
>>     
>
> Yes. And developers will always complain about those who profit and don't 
> contribute.
>
>   
>> As far as contribution goes, not everyone has the talent and ability to 
>> contribute - Like me.
>>     
>
> I doubt that. You _can_ contribute. You actually do it right now.
>
>   
>> The way I see it, criticizing (when done in a constructive way) is not a 
>> bad thing. It is what drives the project when others share there views 
>> on features/functionality good or bad!
>>     
>
> This is a contribution! By telling what is important to you, you 
> contribute to the future value of the project (note that I say "project", 
> not "product"...)
>
> There is a subtle point-of-no-return though. The story I was referring to, 
> was where a person did not contribute, but instead called people names if 
> they did not do what she wanted, which was effectively to work hard and 
> for free. Which is just not fair.
>
> Ciao,
> Dscho
>
> P.S.: Actually, it was a "he", but I say "she" here, because he was a real 
> pussy, and I am very happy he left the list.
>   
I share your view. Complaining and bitching in the wrong way is not a 
good thing.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-06-15 21:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-14 14:55 [Qemu-devel] VMware Player Joe Lee
2006-06-14 15:01 ` Paul Brook
2006-06-14 15:53   ` Joe Lee
2006-06-14 16:02     ` Paul Brook
2006-06-14 16:12       ` Joe Lee
2006-06-14 16:21         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2006-06-14 16:39           ` Jan Marten Simons
2006-06-14 17:42             ` Joe Lee
2006-06-14 16:10     ` Oliver Gerlich
2006-06-15  7:47       ` kadil
2006-06-15 13:18         ` WaxDragon
2006-06-15 13:43           ` Julian Seward
2006-06-15 13:50             ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-06-15 16:55             ` [Qemu-devel] " Ben Pfaff
2006-06-15 19:21               ` Joe Lee
2006-06-15 19:33                 ` WaxDragon
2006-06-15 19:44                   ` Joe Lee
2006-06-16 10:51                     ` Jan Marten Simons
2006-06-16 11:01                 ` Jan Marten Simons
2006-06-15 14:18           ` [Qemu-devel] " Joe Lee
2006-06-15 14:43             ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-06-15 19:42               ` Joe Lee
2006-06-15 20:55                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-06-15 21:04                   ` Joe Lee [this message]
2006-06-15 20:34               ` Joe Lee
2006-06-15 20:56                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-06-15 21:03                   ` Joe Lee
2006-06-16  3:39                     ` Rick Vernam
2006-06-16  4:31                       ` Joe Lee
2006-06-16  5:20                         ` Rick Vernam
2006-06-15 22:29                   ` Oliver Gerlich
2006-06-15 22:52                     ` [Qemu-devel] Doing a Tcl/Tk based frontend John Morris
2006-06-15 23:23                       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2006-06-15 23:33                         ` Oliver Gerlich
2006-06-15 23:41                           ` Anthony Liguori
2006-06-15 23:56                           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2006-06-16  0:01                             ` Anthony Liguori
2006-06-15 23:38                         ` Anthony Liguori
2006-06-15 23:03                     ` [Qemu-devel] VMware Player Johannes Schindelin
2006-06-15 23:38                       ` Oliver Gerlich
2006-06-16  9:34                 ` kadil
2006-06-15 15:25             ` Oliver Gerlich
2006-06-15 21:17             ` John Morris
2006-06-16  6:51               ` Tim Walker
2006-06-16  7:21               ` Kevin F. Quinn
2006-06-16 12:45                 ` Stuart Brady
2006-06-16 15:02                   ` Kevin F. Quinn
2006-06-16 15:07                     ` Christian MICHON
2006-06-16 15:35                       ` Oliver Gerlich
2006-06-16 17:18                       ` Kevin F. Quinn
2006-06-17 16:06                       ` [Qemu-devel] GUI for QEmu (ex "VMware Player" topic) NyOS
2006-06-16 14:18                 ` [Qemu-devel] VMware Player Joe Lee
2006-06-16 14:26                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-06-14 16:22     ` Jan Marten Simons
2006-06-14 17:15       ` Mattia Gentilini
2006-06-14 16:27     ` Larry Brigman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-06-17 15:46 Mattia Gentilini (QD)
2006-06-17  6:15 Mattia Gentilini (QD)
2006-06-17  7:25 ` Tim Walker
2005-10-21 19:29 [Qemu-devel] VMWare player John R. Hogerhuis
2005-10-21 20:22 ` Mike Swanson
2005-10-21 21:37   ` John R. Hogerhuis
2005-10-22 14:34 ` Jim C. Brown

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