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From: Oliver Gerlich <olig9@gmx.de>
To: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Doing a Tcl/Tk based frontend
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 01:33:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4491EE46.9070702@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060615232325.GA5198@redhat.com>

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Daniel P. Berrange schrieb:
> On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 05:52:14PM -0500, John Morris wrote:
> 
>>On Thu, 2006-06-15 at 17:29, Oliver Gerlich wrote:
>>
>>
>>>If you are familiar with Tcl/Tk, maybe you could give some hints on how
>>>to embed the Qemu window into such an app?
>>
>>Embedding the emulator's window might not be the best way to attack the
>>problem.  Especially since you would need to be able to detach it to be
>>able to go full screen.  I have pondered the Tk frontend idea before so
>>lemme dump my random thoughts on the subject and see how many holes get
>>punched in em.
> 
> 
> With the new VNC server capability there is no need to embed the emulator's
> existing window. You can just have a GTK/QT widget which acts as a VNC client
> taking the video feed & displaying directly within the GUI management app. 
> Similarly you can redirect the QEMU monitor console to a UNIX pipe when 
> lauching QEMU, so the management app can fully control the QEMU engine
> to do suspend/resume, snapshots, media changesi.
> 
> I wrote an GUI app in Python which did the latter already:
> 
> http://people.redhat.com/berrange/olpc/sdk/olpc-qemu-admin-demo.html
> 
> At the time I wrote it there wasn't any VNC support in QEMU, so I couldn't
> hook up the display, but with the 0.8.1 release it wouldn't be much effort
> to embed the display directly in the app via VNC. So I don't think there 
> are any changes required in QEMU itself to be able to create a fully
> featured QEMU frontend easily on a par with VMWare Desktop, if not better.
> 
> Regards.
> Dan.

VNC is a good idea... But isn't it a bit "laggy" for this purpose? I
think people accept a laggy mouse cursor in a VNC window that comes over
the network, but won't really accept that in virtual machine that's
running directly on their desktop. OTOH, I'm no VNC expert :) and maybe
there are tricks to speed this up?!

Regards,
Oliver
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  reply	other threads:[~2006-06-15 23:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-14 14:55 [Qemu-devel] VMware Player Joe Lee
2006-06-14 15:01 ` Paul Brook
2006-06-14 15:53   ` Joe Lee
2006-06-14 16:02     ` Paul Brook
2006-06-14 16:12       ` Joe Lee
2006-06-14 16:21         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2006-06-14 16:39           ` Jan Marten Simons
2006-06-14 17:42             ` Joe Lee
2006-06-14 16:10     ` Oliver Gerlich
2006-06-15  7:47       ` kadil
2006-06-15 13:18         ` WaxDragon
2006-06-15 13:43           ` Julian Seward
2006-06-15 13:50             ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-06-15 16:55             ` [Qemu-devel] " Ben Pfaff
2006-06-15 19:21               ` Joe Lee
2006-06-15 19:33                 ` WaxDragon
2006-06-15 19:44                   ` Joe Lee
2006-06-16 10:51                     ` Jan Marten Simons
2006-06-16 11:01                 ` Jan Marten Simons
2006-06-15 14:18           ` [Qemu-devel] " Joe Lee
2006-06-15 14:43             ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-06-15 19:42               ` Joe Lee
2006-06-15 20:55                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-06-15 21:04                   ` Joe Lee
2006-06-15 20:34               ` Joe Lee
2006-06-15 20:56                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-06-15 21:03                   ` Joe Lee
2006-06-16  3:39                     ` Rick Vernam
2006-06-16  4:31                       ` Joe Lee
2006-06-16  5:20                         ` Rick Vernam
2006-06-15 22:29                   ` Oliver Gerlich
2006-06-15 22:52                     ` [Qemu-devel] Doing a Tcl/Tk based frontend John Morris
2006-06-15 23:23                       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2006-06-15 23:33                         ` Oliver Gerlich [this message]
2006-06-15 23:41                           ` Anthony Liguori
2006-06-15 23:56                           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2006-06-16  0:01                             ` Anthony Liguori
2006-06-15 23:38                         ` Anthony Liguori
2006-06-15 23:03                     ` [Qemu-devel] VMware Player Johannes Schindelin
2006-06-15 23:38                       ` Oliver Gerlich
2006-06-16  9:34                 ` kadil
2006-06-15 15:25             ` Oliver Gerlich
2006-06-15 21:17             ` John Morris
2006-06-16  6:51               ` Tim Walker
2006-06-16  7:21               ` Kevin F. Quinn
2006-06-16 12:45                 ` Stuart Brady
2006-06-16 15:02                   ` Kevin F. Quinn
2006-06-16 15:07                     ` Christian MICHON
2006-06-16 15:35                       ` Oliver Gerlich
2006-06-16 17:18                       ` Kevin F. Quinn
2006-06-17 16:06                       ` [Qemu-devel] GUI for QEmu (ex "VMware Player" topic) NyOS
2006-06-16 14:18                 ` [Qemu-devel] VMware Player Joe Lee
2006-06-16 14:26                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-06-14 16:22     ` Jan Marten Simons
2006-06-14 17:15       ` Mattia Gentilini
2006-06-14 16:27     ` Larry Brigman

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