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From: Daniel Lezcano <dlezcano@fr.ibm.com>
To: Andrey Savochkin <saw@swsoft.com>
Cc: Sam Vilain <sam@vilain.net>, "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>,
	Cedric Le Goater <clg@fr.ibm.com>,
	hadi@cyberus.ca, Herbert Poetzl <herbert@13thfloor.at>,
	Alexey Kuznetsov <alexey@sw.ru>,
	viro@ftp.linux.org.uk, devel@openvz.org, dev@sw.ru,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>,
	Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>,
	Alexey Kuznetsov <kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: strict isolation of net interfaces
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2006 14:29:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44AA5F28.9040109@fr.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060703185350.A16826@castle.nmd.msu.ru>

Andrey Savochkin wrote:
> 
> I still can't completely understand your direction of thoughts.
> Could you elaborate on IP address assignment in your diagram, please?  For
> example, guest0 wants 127.0.0.1 and 192.168.0.1 addresses on its lo
> interface, and 10.1.1.1 on its eth0 interface.
> Does this diagram assume any local IP addresses on v* interfaces in the
> "host"?
> 
> And the second question.
> Are vlo0, veth0, etc. devices supposed to have hard_xmit routines?


Andrey,

some people are interested by a network full isolation/virtualization 
like you did with the layer 2 isolation and some other people are 
interested by a light network isolation done at the layer 3. This one is 
intended to implement "application container" aka "lightweight container".

In the case of a layer 3 isolation, the network interface is not totally 
isolated and the debate here is to find a way to have something 
intuitive to manage the network devices.

IHMO, all the discussion we had convinced me of the needs to have the 
possibility to choose between a layer 2 or a layer 3 isolation.

If it is ok for you, we can collaborate to merge the two solutions in 
one. I will focus on layer 3 isolation and you on the layer 2.

Regards

   - Daniel

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-07-04 12:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-09 21:02 [RFC] [patch 0/6] [Network namespace] introduction dlezcano
2006-06-09 21:02 ` [RFC] [patch 1/6] [Network namespace] Network namespace structure dlezcano
2006-06-09 21:02 ` [RFC] [patch 2/6] [Network namespace] Network device sharing by view dlezcano
2006-06-11 10:18   ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-18 18:53   ` Al Viro
2006-06-26  9:47   ` Andrey Savochkin
2006-06-26 13:02     ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-06-26 14:05       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-26 14:08       ` Andrey Savochkin
2006-06-26 18:28         ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-06-26 18:59           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-26 14:56     ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-06-26 15:21       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-26 15:27       ` Andrey Savochkin
2006-06-26 15:49         ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-06-26 16:40           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-26 18:36             ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-06-26 19:35               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-26 20:02                 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-06-26 20:37                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-26 21:26                     ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-06-26 21:59                       ` Ben Greear
2006-06-26 22:11                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-27  9:09                   ` Andrey Savochkin
2006-06-27 15:48                     ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-06-27 16:19                       ` Andrey Savochkin
2006-06-27 16:40                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-26 22:13                 ` Ben Greear
2006-06-26 22:54                   ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-06-26 23:08                     ` Ben Greear
2006-06-27 16:07                       ` Ben Greear
2006-06-27 22:48                         ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-06-27  9:11           ` Andrey Savochkin
2006-06-27  9:34             ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-06-27  9:38               ` Andrey Savochkin
2006-06-27 11:21                 ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-06-27 11:52                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-27 16:02                     ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-06-27 16:47                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-27 17:19                         ` Ben Greear
2006-06-27 22:52                           ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-06-27 23:12                             ` Dave Hansen
2006-06-27 23:42                               ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-06-28  3:38                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-28 13:36                                   ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-06-28 13:53                                     ` jamal
2006-06-28 14:19                                       ` Andrey Savochkin
2006-06-28 16:17                                         ` jamal
2006-06-28 16:58                                           ` Andrey Savochkin
2006-06-28 17:17                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-28 17:04                                         ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-06-28 14:39                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-30  1:41                                         ` Sam Vilain
2006-06-29 21:07                                       ` Sam Vilain
2006-06-29 22:14                                         ` strict isolation of net interfaces Cedric Le Goater
2006-06-30  2:39                                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-06-30  2:49                                             ` Sam Vilain
2006-07-03 14:53                                               ` Andrey Savochkin
2006-07-04  3:00                                                 ` Sam Vilain
2006-07-04 12:29                                                 ` Daniel Lezcano [this message]
2006-07-04 13:13                                                   ` Sam Vilain
2006-07-04 13:19                                                     ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-06-30  8:56                                             ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-07-03 13:36                                               ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-06-30 12:23                                             ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-06-30 14:20                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-30 15:22                                                 ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-06-30 17:58                                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-30 16:14                                                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-06-30 17:41                                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-30 18:09                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-30  0:15                                         ` [patch 2/6] [Network namespace] Network device sharing by view jamal
2006-06-30  3:35                                           ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-06-30  7:45                                           ` Andrey Savochkin
2006-06-30 13:50                                             ` jamal
2006-06-30 15:01                                               ` Andrey Savochkin
2006-06-30 18:22                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-30 21:51                                                 ` jamal
2006-07-01  0:50                                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-28 14:21                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-28 14:51                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-27 16:49                       ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-06-27 11:55                   ` Andrey Savochkin
2006-06-27  9:54               ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-06-27 16:09                 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-06-27 16:29                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-27 23:07                     ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-06-28  4:07                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-28  6:31                         ` Sam Vilain
2006-06-28 14:15                           ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-06-28 15:36                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-28 17:18                               ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-06-28 10:14                         ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-06-28 14:11                         ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-06-28 16:10                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-06  9:45               ` Routing tables (Re: [patch 2/6] [Network namespace] Network device sharing by view) Kari Hurtta
2006-06-09 21:02 ` [RFC] [patch 3/6] [Network namespace] Network devices isolation dlezcano
2006-06-18 18:57   ` Al Viro
2006-06-09 21:02 ` [RFC] [patch 4/6] [Network namespace] Network inet " dlezcano
2006-06-09 21:02 ` [RFC] [patch 5/6] [Network namespace] ipv4 isolation dlezcano
2006-06-10  0:23   ` James Morris
2006-06-10  0:27     ` Rick Jones
2006-06-10  0:47       ` James Morris
2006-06-09 21:02 ` [RFC] [patch 6/6] [Network namespace] Network namespace debugfs dlezcano
2006-06-10  7:16 ` [RFC] [patch 0/6] [Network namespace] introduction Kari Hurtta
2006-06-16  4:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-16  9:06   ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-06-16  9:22     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-18 18:47 ` Al Viro
2006-06-20 21:21   ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-06-20 21:25     ` Al Viro
2006-06-20 22:45       ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-06-26 23:38 ` Patrick McHardy

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