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From: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
To: Amin Azez <azez@ufomechanic.net>
Cc: Netfilter Development Mailinglist
	<netfilter-devel@lists.netfilter.org>,
	Bart De Schuymer <bdschuym@pandora.be>,
	Tom Eastep <teastep@shorewall.net>
Subject: Re: RFC: Disable defered bridge hooks by default
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 18:36:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44BE5F9E.8020603@trash.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44B666C5.8040603@ufomechanic.net>

Amin Azez wrote:
> Intercepting some traffic types and sending them via alternate gateways,
> (i.e. VPN gateways if the VPN is up) for errr... people who don't want
> to change the network default gateway for the whole network; also, for
> managing certain services for multi-subnet'd segments. I guess its part
> of the fashion to do things in layer2 these days as it involves less
> infrastructure change. For them.
> 
> I think Philip was right and my slight suggestion is wrong; I can't
> "look ahead" as ebtables would need to process the "look ahead" also,
> and influencing the look ahead (as well as counting the look-ahead packets)
> 
> I think cracking open the bridge code to fit the same model as the ip
> routing code, so it works out how to bridge it at just the same point
> the routing code calculates a route and then output device; but saves
> the answer for later when the final hooks have been traversed.

The routing code shouldn't know anything about the bridge FDB.

> I think if ebtables becomes the answer it will just grow to be as big as
> iptables with all the extra matches iptables has, just as iptables has
> extra -p tcp and -p udp matches.

Thats where MARK will be useful, but only if the target is available
in ebtables. SNAT based on bridge port won't be possible anymore.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-07-19 16:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-04  9:26 RFC: Disable defered bridge hooks by default Patrick McHardy
2006-07-04  9:27 ` Patrick McHardy
2006-07-08  0:36   ` Tom Eastep
2006-07-08  3:01     ` Patrick McHardy
2006-07-10  9:56       ` Amin Azez
2006-07-11  8:28         ` Patrick McHardy
2006-07-11  9:33           ` Amin Azez
2006-07-11 20:34       ` Tom Eastep
2006-07-11 21:29         ` Patrick McHardy
2006-07-12 22:41           ` Tom Eastep
2006-07-13  7:35             ` Patrick McHardy
2006-07-13 14:11               ` Tom Eastep
2006-07-13 14:45                 ` Patrick McHardy
2006-07-13 15:31                   ` Tom Eastep
2006-07-15 14:32                     ` Tom Eastep
2006-07-19 14:21                     ` Patrick McHardy
2006-07-19 15:50                       ` Tom Eastep
2006-07-19 16:02                         ` Patrick McHardy
2006-07-13  9:56             ` Amin Azez
2006-07-12  6:16       ` Philip Craig
2006-07-13  0:20         ` Tom Eastep
2006-07-13  0:42           ` David Miller
2006-07-13  0:45             ` Tom Eastep
2006-07-13  9:45               ` Amin Azez
2006-07-13  7:31           ` Patrick McHardy
2006-07-13  7:46         ` Patrick McHardy
2006-07-13  8:12           ` Philip Craig
2006-07-13  8:36             ` Patrick McHardy
2006-07-13 14:11           ` Amin Azez
2006-07-13 14:50             ` Patrick McHardy
2006-07-13 15:29               ` Amin Azez
2006-07-19 16:36                 ` Patrick McHardy [this message]
     [not found]                   ` <44BE624E.5080307@ufomechanic.net>
2006-07-19 17:15                     ` Patrick McHardy
     [not found] <W8195318669268441152182124@nocme1bl6.telenet-ops.be>
2006-07-06 10:49 ` Patrick McHardy
2006-07-07  3:37 ` Patrick McHardy
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-07-07 10:17 bdschuym@pandora.be
2006-07-07 10:24 ` Patrick McHardy
2006-07-13 12:56 bdschuym@pandora.be
2006-07-13 14:38 ` Patrick McHardy

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