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From: Zachary Amsden <zach@vmware.com>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>
Cc: virtualization@lists.osdl.org,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] paravirt.h
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:16:32 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44EB3BF0.3040805@vmware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200608221544.26989.ak@muc.de>

Andi Kleen wrote:
> I don't see why paravirt ops is that much more sensitive
> than most other kernel code. 
>
>   
>> It would be a lot safer if we could have the struct paravirt_ops in
>> protected read-only const memory space, set it up in the core kernel
>> early on in boot when we play "guess todays hypervisor" and then make
>> sure it stays in read only (even to kernel) space.
>>     
>
> By default we don't make anything read only because that would
> mess up the 2MB kernel mapping.
>
> In general i don't think making select code in the kernel
> read only is a good idea, because as long as you don't
> protect everything including stacks etc. there will be always
> attack points where supposedly protected code relies 
> on unprotected state. If someone can write to kernel
> memory you already lost.
>
> And it adds TLB pressure.
>   

And it doesn't work for VMI or lhype, both of which might modify 
paravirt_ops way later in the boot process, when loaded as a module.  
Where did this conversation come from?  I don't see it on any list I'm 
subscribed to.

Zach

  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-22 17:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-10  9:35 [PATCH] paravirt.h Rusty Russell
2006-08-10 10:10 ` Rusty Russell
2006-08-10 10:30   ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-10 11:05     ` Rusty Russell
2006-08-10 11:31       ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-10 11:31         ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-10 13:03         ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-10 15:14       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
     [not found]         ` <44DB54A5.50006@vmware.com>
     [not found]           ` <44DB6144.2080308@goop.org>
     [not found]             ` <1155262867.27719.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2006-08-11  2:34               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-08-10 18:06 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-08-19  1:21   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-19  2:46     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-08-19  2:46       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-08-20  8:50       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2006-08-22 12:56         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-08-22 14:08           ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-22 14:08             ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-22 13:56   ` Alan Cox
2006-08-22 13:56     ` Alan Cox
2006-08-22 13:44     ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-22 17:16       ` Zachary Amsden [this message]
2006-08-22 18:29         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-22 19:30           ` Alan Cox
2006-08-22 19:17             ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-22 19:26               ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-22 19:29                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-22 19:43                   ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-22 19:43                     ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-22 20:16                 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-22 22:02                   ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-23  1:55                     ` Rusty Russell
2006-08-23  1:55                       ` Rusty Russell
2006-08-23  2:12                       ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-23  7:56                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-23  8:44                       ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-23  8:50                         ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-23  9:01                           ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-23  9:06                             ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-23  9:14                               ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-23  9:20                                 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-23  9:36                                   ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-23  9:41                                     ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-23  9:48                                       ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-23  9:50                                         ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-23 10:03                                           ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-23 10:03                                             ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-23 11:24                                             ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-23  8:56                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-23  8:18                     ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-23  8:18                       ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-23  8:38                       ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-22 21:36               ` Alan Cox
2006-08-22 13:45     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-22 13:50       ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-22 14:25         ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-22 14:25           ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-22 14:54           ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-22 17:36             ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-22 18:35               ` Alan Cox
2006-08-22 18:35                 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-22 14:59     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-08-22 15:12       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-22 15:12         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-22 15:58       ` Alan Cox
2006-08-22 15:58         ` Alan Cox
2006-08-23  1:35     ` Rusty Russell

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