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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>, Edward Falk <efalk@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix x86_64 _spin_lock_irqsave()
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 15:33:28 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44EE8BA8.2090706@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060824213828.5504b4de.akpm@osdl.org>

Andrew Morton wrote:
> On 24 Aug 2006 08:45:11 +0200
> Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Edward Falk <efalk@google.com> writes:
>>
>>
>>>Add spin_lock_string_flags and _raw_spin_lock_flags() to
>>>asm-x86_64/spinlock.h so that _spin_lock_irqsave() has the same
>>>semantics on x86_64 as it does on i386 and does *not* have interrupts
>>>disabled while it is waiting for the lock.
>>
>>Did it fix anything for you?
>>
> 
> 
> It's the rendezvous-via-IPI problem.  Suppose we want to capture all CPUs
> in an IPI handler (TSC sync, for example).
> 
> - CPUa holds read_lock(&tasklist_lock)
> - CPUb is spinning in write_lock_irq(&taslist_lock)
> - CPUa enters its IPI handler and spins
> - CPUb never takes the IPI and we're dead.
> 
> Re-enabling interrupts while we spin will prevent that.  But I suspect that
> if we ever want to implement IPI rendezvous (and cannot use the
> stop_machine_run() thing) then we might still have problems.  A valid
> optimisation (which we use in some places) is:
> 
> 	local_irq_save(flags);
> 	<stuff>
> 	write_lock(lock);

Yes, or it may be taken inside a section that needs interrupts off for
correctness (eg. if it is holding an irq safe lock). And in the current
implementation I don't think the plain _irq variants reenable interrupts
because that would require reading the register.

Would it be sufficient to just do pair-wise rendezvous, where the
initiating CPU is in a known good state? For TSC sync it might be...

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-25  5:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-24  2:57 [PATCH] Fix x86_64 _spin_lock_irqsave() Edward Falk
2006-08-24  3:10 ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-24  4:48   ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-24 15:53     ` Martin Bligh
2006-08-26  7:52       ` Keith Owens
2006-08-24  6:45 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-24 11:04   ` Suleiman Souhlal
2006-08-24 11:13     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-24 11:32     ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-24 12:33       ` Suleiman Souhlal
2006-08-24 13:21         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-24 13:44           ` Suleiman Souhlal
2006-08-25  4:38   ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-25  5:33     ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2006-08-25  6:21     ` Andi Kleen

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