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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Indan Zupancic <indan@nul.nu>,
	Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>,
	Daniel Phillips <phillips@google.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] VM deadlock prevention -v5
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 12:04:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44EF1F7A.3080001@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608250849480.9083@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>

Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Aug 2006, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> 
>> The basic premises is that network sockets serving the VM need undisturbed
>> functionality in the face of severe memory shortage.
>>
>> This patch-set provides the framework to provide this.
> 
> Hmmm.. Is it not possible to avoid the memory pools by 
> guaranteeing that a certain number of page is easily reclaimable?

No.

You need to guarantee that the memory is not gobbled up by
another subsystem, but remains available for use by *this*
subsystem.  Otherwise you could still deadlock.

-- 
What is important?  What you want to be true, or what is true?

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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Indan Zupancic <indan@nul.nu>,
	Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>,
	Daniel Phillips <phillips@google.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] VM deadlock prevention -v5
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 12:04:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44EF1F7A.3080001@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608250849480.9083@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>

Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Aug 2006, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> 
>> The basic premises is that network sockets serving the VM need undisturbed
>> functionality in the face of severe memory shortage.
>>
>> This patch-set provides the framework to provide this.
> 
> Hmmm.. Is it not possible to avoid the memory pools by 
> guaranteeing that a certain number of page is easily reclaimable?

No.

You need to guarantee that the memory is not gobbled up by
another subsystem, but remains available for use by *this*
subsystem.  Otherwise you could still deadlock.

-- 
What is important?  What you want to be true, or what is true?

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-08-25 16:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-25 15:39 [PATCH 0/4] VM deadlock prevention -v5 Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-25 15:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-25 15:39 ` [PATCH 1/4] net: VM deadlock avoidance framework Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-25 15:39   ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-26  2:37   ` Indan Zupancic
2006-08-26  2:37     ` Indan Zupancic
2006-08-28 10:22     ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-28 10:22       ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-28 16:03       ` Indan Zupancic
2006-08-28 16:03         ` Indan Zupancic
2006-08-28 17:32         ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-28 17:32           ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-29  0:01           ` Indan Zupancic
2006-08-29  0:01             ` Indan Zupancic
2006-08-29  9:49             ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-29  9:49               ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-29 19:53               ` Indan Zupancic
2006-08-29 19:53                 ` Indan Zupancic
2006-08-25 15:40 ` [PATCH 2/4] blkdev: iosched selection for queue creation Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-25 15:40   ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-25 15:40 ` [PATCH 3/4] nbd: deadlock prevention for NBD Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-25 15:40   ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-25 15:40 ` [PATCH 4/4] nfs: deadlock prevention for NFS Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-25 15:40   ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-25 20:14   ` Trond Myklebust
2006-08-25 20:14     ` Trond Myklebust
2006-08-25 20:36     ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-25 20:36       ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-26  3:05       ` Indan Zupancic
2006-08-26  3:05         ` Indan Zupancic
2006-08-25 15:51 ` [PATCH 0/4] VM deadlock prevention -v5 Christoph Lameter
2006-08-25 15:51   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-08-25 15:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-25 15:52     ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-25 16:04   ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2006-08-25 16:04     ` Rik van Riel

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