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* Bogofilter at VGER..
@ 2006-09-01 12:51 Matti Aarnio
  2006-09-02 12:46 ` Bogofilter at VGER.. (part 2) Matti Aarnio
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Matti Aarnio @ 2006-09-01 12:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

Hello,

We are considering of taking Bogofilter into use at VGER.
So far we are using it in TEST mode - to teach it about
SPAM and HAM.

I have added some new "cute" email addresses to VGER to
receive any spams that spammers wish to send to us..
See the bottom link at vger's web front page.

You can feed SPAM to  bogofilter-spam@vger.kernel.org,
but do not feed there any HAM.  Not that it would
really affect statistics in any effective way.


IF we take it into use, it will start rejecting messages
at SMTP input phase, so if it rejects legitimate message,
you should get a bounce from your email provider's system.
(Or from zeus.kernel.org, which is vger's backup MX.)

In such case, send the bounce with some explanations to 
<postmaster@vger.kernel.org> -- emails to that address
are explicitely excluded from all filtering!

Regards,
  Matti Aarnio -- one of  <postmaster@vger.kernel.org>

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* Bogofilter at VGER.. (part 2)
  2006-09-01 12:51 Bogofilter at VGER Matti Aarnio
@ 2006-09-02 12:46 ` Matti Aarnio
  2006-09-03  4:38   ` Rik van Riel
  2006-09-03 11:09   ` Pavel Machek
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Matti Aarnio @ 2006-09-02 12:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 03:51:53PM +0300, Matti Aarnio wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> We are considering of taking Bogofilter into use at VGER.
> So far we are using it in TEST mode - to teach it about
> SPAM and HAM.

Now after some 30 hour message flow for training the filter
has been taken into active use.

It is now able to REJECT things it considers SPAM.

That rejection happens at SMTP input phase, and if your LEGITIMATE
email is now rejected (bounced back to you), do complain to VGER's
POSTMASTER address (postmaster@vger.kernel.org)
That one address is exempted of all content filterings.

We can _try_to_ train the Bayes to accept your email.


> You can feed SPAM to  bogofilter-spam@vger.kernel.org,
> but do not feed there any HAM.  Not that it would
> really affect statistics in any effective way.

My intention was that if you noticed a spam that went
through the list, THEN you can feed that back to the
above mentioned address.  Now several people have fed
their entire spam collections there...

Oh uh..  tons of training material..
Please DO NOT DO IT AGAIN.

We have some secret addresses that we use to teach the system
about HAM and even to untrain previous SPAM score.
We have a number of spam-traps, which I do list below so that
they get wider dissemination and end up in spammers address
lists...  See HTML source of  http://vger.kernel.org/bo.html


Regards,
   Matti Aarnio -- one of  <postmaster@vger.kernel.org>

Trap addresses:

  bogofilter-spam@vger.kernel.org  bo@vger.kernel.org   
  bo--jhsncuk34@vger.kernel.org    bo--jdsclq334@vger.kernel.org
  bo--kewwrl@vger.kernel.org     bo--esafuk@vger.kernel.org
  bo--ihsaju@vger.kernel.org     bo--zfflun@vger.kernel.org
  bo--pgnxao@vger.kernel.org     bo--vbjdos@vger.kernel.org
  bo--iduiri@vger.kernel.org     bo--cjhqmn@vger.kernel.org
  bo--jhpoko@vger.kernel.org     bo--miszpq@vger.kernel.org
  bo--lmorye@vger.kernel.org     bo--zpqotp@vger.kernel.org
  bo--ofurbd@vger.kernel.org     bo--docabv@vger.kernel.org
  bo--rqnsfw@vger.kernel.org     bo--ejqxcj@vger.kernel.org
  bo--tlhntx@vger.kernel.org     bo--vdnygc@vger.kernel.org
  bo--xrhkpa@vger.kernel.org     bo--hdyrzp@vger.kernel.org
  bo--hialfu@vger.kernel.org     bo--knlqpz@vger.kernel.org
  bo--qhcwox@vger.kernel.org     bo--fwzhho@vger.kernel.org
  bo--vtyywu@vger.kernel.org     bo--bnoquf@vger.kernel.org
  bo--sbttra@vger.kernel.org     bo--kwkbnt@vger.kernel.org
  bo--ixdghc@vger.kernel.org     bo--rmlpel@vger.kernel.org
  bo-hamil@vger.kernel.org       bo-mark@vger.kernel.org
  bo-spencer@vger.kernel.org     bo-miller@vger.kernel.org
  bo-lobanov@vger.kernel.org     bo-aarnio@vger.kernel.org
  bo-sipek@vger.kernel.org       bo-garzik@vger.kernel.org


Some of those have two hyphens, some have only one.
Copy and paste freely -- especially if you post to
usenet newsgroups, but make sure you DO NOT let posts
to go to those addresses.  (If you e.g. put them into
your email cc: headers.)
(Single hyphen ones are based on names I saw in my inbox
the other day...  Single prefix + somebody's name.)

-- 
VGER BF report: U 0.5

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* Re: Bogofilter at VGER.. (part 2)
  2006-09-02 12:46 ` Bogofilter at VGER.. (part 2) Matti Aarnio
@ 2006-09-03  4:38   ` Rik van Riel
  2006-09-03 11:09   ` Pavel Machek
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Rik van Riel @ 2006-09-03  4:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Matti Aarnio; +Cc: linux-kernel

Matti Aarnio wrote:

> We can _try_to_ train the Bayes to accept your email.

With the mailing lists on NL.linux.org, I always accept email
from list subscribers and use that to train as ham.

Mail to spamtraps is trained as spam, and mail from non-subscribers
to the lists is filtered.  Through spamassassin though - I need to
try out a better bayesian filter...

-- 
What is important?  What you want to be true, or what is true?

-- 
VGER BF report: U 0.5

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* Re: Bogofilter at VGER.. (part 2)
  2006-09-02 12:46 ` Bogofilter at VGER.. (part 2) Matti Aarnio
  2006-09-03  4:38   ` Rik van Riel
@ 2006-09-03 11:09   ` Pavel Machek
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Pavel Machek @ 2006-09-03 11:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Matti Aarnio; +Cc: linux-kernel

Hi!

> > We are considering of taking Bogofilter into use at VGER.
> > So far we are using it in TEST mode - to teach it about
> > SPAM and HAM.
> 
> Now after some 30 hour message flow for training the filter
> has been taken into active use.
> 
> It is now able to REJECT things it considers SPAM.

Nice, but...

> VGER BF report: U 0.5
...
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The list signature is getting long and boooring. Can we move 'vger bf
report' to X-bogo-report, and only have one FAQ pointer?
-- 
Thanks for all the (sleeping) penguins.

-- 
VGER BF report: H 0.284667

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