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From: Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru, alex@sectorb.msk.ru, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] Re: high latency with TCP connections
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 10:11:19 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <450ED337.8000700@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060918.003938.26278728.davem@davemloft.net>

David Miller wrote:
> From: Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com>
> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 10:55:16 -0700
> 
> 
>>Is this really necessary?  I thought that the problems with ABC were in 
>>trying to apply byte-based heuristics from the RFC(s) to a 
>>packet-oritented cwnd in the stack?
> 
> 
> This is receiver side, and helps a sender who does congestion
> control based upon packet counting like Linux does.   It really
> is less related to ABC than Alexey implies, we've always had
> this kind of problem as I mentioned in previous talks in the
> past on this issue.

For a connection receiving nothing but sub-MSS segments this is going to 
non-trivially increase the number of ACKs sent no?  I would expect an 
unpleasant increase in service demands on something like a "burst 
enabled" (./configure --enable-burst) netperf TCP_RR test:

netperf -t TCP_RR -H foo -- -b N   # N > 1

to increase as a result.   Pipelined HTTP would be like that, some NFS 
over TCP stuff too, maybe X traffic, other "transactional" workloads as 
well - maybe Tuxeudo.

rick jones

  reply	other threads:[~2006-09-18 17:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-30 10:07 high latency with TCP connections Alexander Vodomerov
2006-08-30 17:27 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-08-30 21:39   ` David Miller
2006-08-30 22:04     ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-08-30 23:00     ` Rick Jones
2006-08-31  8:14     ` Alexander Vodomerov
2006-08-31 15:44       ` Sridhar Samudrala
2006-08-31 18:22     ` Kelly Burkhart
2006-08-31 19:40       ` Rick Jones
2006-08-31 21:08       ` Ian McDonald
2006-08-31 21:46   ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-08-31 22:14     ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-08-31 22:44       ` David Miller
2006-08-31 23:29         ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-08-31 23:57           ` David Miller
2006-09-01  3:23             ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-01  3:39               ` Ian McDonald
2006-09-01  6:23                 ` David Miller
2006-09-01  9:44             ` Pekka Savola
2006-09-01  9:49               ` David Miller
2006-09-01  9:47             ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-01 11:00               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
     [not found]                 ` <20060901090046.69b3d583@localhost.localdomain>
2006-09-01 20:55                   ` [PATCH] tcp: turn ABC off Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-02  7:22                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-02  8:10                       ` Herbert Xu
2006-09-04  9:10                 ` high latency with TCP connections Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-04 16:00 ` [PATCH][RFC] " Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-05 17:55   ` Rick Jones
2006-09-05 22:13     ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-18  7:39     ` David Miller
2006-09-18 17:11       ` Rick Jones [this message]
2006-09-18 20:41         ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-18 21:24           ` Rick Jones
2006-09-18 22:51             ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-19  0:37               ` Rick Jones
2006-09-22 13:46                 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-22 17:15                   ` Rick Jones
2006-09-18  7:31   ` David Miller
2006-09-18 10:37     ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-18 13:56       ` David Miller
2006-09-20 22:44         ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-20 22:47           ` David Miller
2006-09-20 22:55             ` Stephen Hemminger

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