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From: "Thomas Hellström" <thomas@tungstengraphics.com>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Linux Memory Management <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 3/3] mm: fault handler to replace nopage and populate
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 08:11:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <452B398C.4030507@tungstengraphics.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1160427036.7752.13.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:

>
>>>Could it be an option to make it safe for the fault handler to 
>>>temporarily drop the mmap_sem read lock given that some conditions TBD 
>>>are met?
>>>In that case it can retake the mmap_sem write lock, do the VMA flags 
>>>modifications, downgrade and do the pte modifications using a helper, or 
>>>even use remap_pfn_range() during the time the write lock is held?
>>>      
>>>
>>When you drop and retake the mmap_sem, you need to start again from
>>find_vma. At which point you technically probably want to start again
>>from the architecture specfic fault code. It sounds difficult but I
>>won't say it can't be done.
>>    
>>
>
>I can be done with returning NOPAGE_REFAULT but as you said, I don't
>think it's necessary.
>  
>
Still, even with NOPAGE_REFAULT or the equivalent with the new fault() code,
in the case we need to take this route, (and it looks like we won't have 
to),
I guess we still need to restart from find_vma() in the fault()/nopage() 
handler to make sure the VMA is still present. The object mutex need to 
be dropped as well to avoid deadlocks. Sounds complicated.

>Cheers,
>Ben.
>
>
>  
>
/Thomas


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From: "Thomas Hellström" <thomas@tungstengraphics.com>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Linux Memory Management <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 3/3] mm: fault handler to replace nopage and populate
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 08:11:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <452B398C.4030507@tungstengraphics.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1160427036.7752.13.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:

>
>>>Could it be an option to make it safe for the fault handler to 
>>>temporarily drop the mmap_sem read lock given that some conditions TBD 
>>>are met?
>>>In that case it can retake the mmap_sem write lock, do the VMA flags 
>>>modifications, downgrade and do the pte modifications using a helper, or 
>>>even use remap_pfn_range() during the time the write lock is held?
>>>      
>>>
>>When you drop and retake the mmap_sem, you need to start again from
>>find_vma. At which point you technically probably want to start again
>>from the architecture specfic fault code. It sounds difficult but I
>>won't say it can't be done.
>>    
>>
>
>I can be done with returning NOPAGE_REFAULT but as you said, I don't
>think it's necessary.
>  
>
Still, even with NOPAGE_REFAULT or the equivalent with the new fault() code,
in the case we need to take this route, (and it looks like we won't have 
to),
I guess we still need to restart from find_vma() in the fault()/nopage() 
handler to make sure the VMA is still present. The object mutex need to 
be dropped as well to avoid deadlocks. Sounds complicated.

>Cheers,
>Ben.
>
>
>  
>
/Thomas

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-10-10  6:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-07 13:05 [rfc] 2.6.19-rc1: vm stuff Nick Piggin
2006-10-07 13:05 ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-07 13:05 ` [patch 1/3] mm: arch_free_page fix Nick Piggin
2006-10-07 13:05   ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-07 13:05 ` [patch 2/3] mm: locks_freed fix Nick Piggin
2006-10-07 13:05   ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-07 13:06 ` [patch 3/3] mm: add arch_alloc_page Nick Piggin
2006-10-07 13:06   ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-07 20:43   ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-07 20:43     ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-08  1:39     ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-08  1:39       ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-11 14:48       ` Martin Schwidefsky
2006-10-11 14:48         ` Martin Schwidefsky
2006-10-11 14:56         ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-11 14:56           ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-11 15:07           ` Martin Schwidefsky
2006-10-11 15:07             ` Martin Schwidefsky
2006-10-07 13:06 ` [patch 1/3] mm: fault vs invalidate/truncate check Nick Piggin
2006-10-07 13:06   ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-07 13:06 ` [patch 2/3] mm: fault vs invalidate/truncate race fix Nick Piggin
2006-10-07 13:06   ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-07 20:43   ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-07 20:43     ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-07 20:44   ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-07 20:44     ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-08  2:05     ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-08  2:05       ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-07 13:06 ` [patch 3/3] mm: fault handler to replace nopage and populate Nick Piggin
2006-10-07 13:06   ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-07 15:14   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-07 15:14     ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-08  2:17     ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-08  2:17       ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-07 20:44   ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-07 20:44     ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-08  2:12     ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-08  2:12       ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-08 23:46     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-08 23:46       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-09 10:26       ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-09 10:26         ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-09 10:50         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-09 10:50           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-09 11:00           ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-09 11:00             ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-09 11:10             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-09 11:10               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-09 11:19               ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-09 11:19                 ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-09 11:32                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-09 11:32                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-09 11:45                   ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-09 11:45                     ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-09 11:49                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-09 11:49                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-09 11:58                       ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-09 11:58                         ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-09 12:07                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-09 12:07                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-09 12:14                           ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-09 12:14                             ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-09 13:38                             ` Thomas Hellstrom
2006-10-09 13:38                               ` Thomas Hellstrom
2006-10-09 13:52                               ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-09 13:52                                 ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-09 20:50                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-09 20:50                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10  6:11                                   ` Thomas Hellström [this message]
2006-10-10  6:11                                     ` Thomas Hellström
2006-10-10  7:55                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10  7:55                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10  8:39                                       ` Thomas Hellstrom
2006-10-10  8:39                                         ` Thomas Hellstrom
2006-10-09 20:45                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-09 20:45                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-09 12:09                         ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-09 12:09                           ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-09 12:11                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-09 12:11                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10 12:10   ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-10-10 12:10     ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-10-10 12:13     ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-10 12:13       ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-10 17:52       ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-10 17:52         ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-11  0:43         ` SPAM: " Nick Piggin
2006-10-11  0:43           ` Nick Piggin
     [not found]   ` <5c77e7070610120456t1bdaa95cre611080c9c953582@mail.gmail.com>
2006-10-12 12:07     ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-12 12:07       ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-14 13:28       ` Ingo Oeser
2006-10-14 13:28         ` Ingo Oeser
2006-10-15  7:54         ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-15  7:54           ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-24 21:31   ` Dave Airlie
2006-10-24 21:31     ` Dave Airlie
2006-10-26 11:09     ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-26 11:09       ` Nick Piggin

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