Re: Hans Reiser arrested...

[Sander Sweers <sander.sweers@gmail.com>]

Tracy R Reed wrote:
> Sander Sweers wrote:
>> I would instead hope Nina is found and both can be reunited with their
>> kids. The question if reiser4 will continue is IMHO a bit insensitive
>> when compared to the situation they are in.
> 
> I understand your temptation to take this position and engage in a 
> competition of "who can be the most sensitive" and accuse anyone who 
> actually talks about software of insensitivity but most of us have 
> businesses to run and we depend on reiserfs. We can't do anything about 
> Hans or Nina. 

Not a competition and I only wanted to bring up the human aspect of the 
situation. And it was also not meant as an accusations. I understand 
this may have sounded like it was but it was not. So sorry Christopher 
if I made you feel I was accusing you.

Please continue the technical discussion but as David said: "I want to 
hear from Hans.  We can leave the gossiping to Slashdot; I'd rather not 
talk behind his back, or try to guess what he wants."

> We can do something about his legacy which is the software 
> and I think that is exactly what we should be doing in a time like this. 
> I don't want to see all of his hard and brilliant work go for nothing. 
> Without money I doubt we can count on the guys from Russia for anything. 

Sorry but did he die or get convicted? No but people are a 1000 steps 
ahead of the current situation.So before speaking about his legacy 
and/or how to continue, let things take it's course and see where it leads.

> Is there anyone else intimately familiar with the codebase who could 
> take reiser4 the rest of the way to the finish line? Let's not let this 
> turn into an example to be used by the proprietary software people 
> pointing to the dangers of FOSS which is surely what will happen if 
> reiserfs is somehow left to stagnate. 

It would actually be a good example in favor of FOSS. Proprietary 
software usually disappear with the company, FOSS does not. But this is 
totally off-topic.

> I hope this is all a 
> misunderstanding and she turns up and Hans continues to develop reiserfs 
> for many years to come. But it would be irresponsible not to initiate a 
> contingency plan. We can be sure that places that rely on reiserfs such 
> as SuSe are already doing so. We are software people, not lawyers, so 
> let's have a conversation about the software.

We are human being first (and not claiming other people are not !) and 
*my* first thought is with Hans, Nina and especially with their kids. As 
they will get the biggest hit from the whole situation regardless of 
what happens next. I feel it is inappropriate to talk about these things 
while nothing is certain yet.IF and only IF it turns out badly in the 
end a discussion can be started about what will happen with reiser4. 
Until then this subject should not be discussed IMHO.

I tried to be very mild and objective in my response and if it was not, 
my apologies.

Best
Sander

PS: I will not debate this any further. I have made clear how I feel 
about this and what my opinion is.