From: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [kvm-devel] [PATCH][RFC] KVM: prepare user interface for smp guests
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:08:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4545C110.8080204@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200610300101.11245.arnd@arndb.de>
Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> Separating the objects into different file descriptors sounds like a
> good idea, but reusing an open dentry/inode with a new file and different
> file operations is a rather unusual way to do it.
Yes, it doesn't feel right.
> Your concept of allocating
> a new context on each open is already weird, but there have been other
> examples of that before.
>
Actually that seemed to me quite natural.
> I'd suggest going to a syscall-based model with your own file system right
> away, even if you don't use the spufs approach but something in the middle:
>
> * You do a trivial nonmountable new file system with anonymous objects,
> similar to eventpollfs, and hand out file descriptors to inodes in it,
> for both the kvm and the vcpu objects.
> * You replace the syscall you'd normally use to hand out a new kvm instance
> with an ioctl on /dev/kvm, and don't allow any other operations on that
> device.
>
> This would be a much more consistant object model, compared with other
> generic kernel functionality that is not bound to an actual device.
> You still have all the flexibility of a loadable module without core
> kernel changes for the development phase, and can easily switch to real
> syscalls when merging it into mainline.
>
I agree, that sounds like a good plan. I'll look into it.
BTW, what does lsof show for spufs users? I thought lsof /dev/kvm would
be a good way to look for virtual machines.
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From: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
linux-kernel
<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] KVM: prepare user interface for smp guests
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:08:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4545C110.8080204@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200610300101.11245.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> Separating the objects into different file descriptors sounds like a
> good idea, but reusing an open dentry/inode with a new file and different
> file operations is a rather unusual way to do it.
Yes, it doesn't feel right.
> Your concept of allocating
> a new context on each open is already weird, but there have been other
> examples of that before.
>
Actually that seemed to me quite natural.
> I'd suggest going to a syscall-based model with your own file system right
> away, even if you don't use the spufs approach but something in the middle:
>
> * You do a trivial nonmountable new file system with anonymous objects,
> similar to eventpollfs, and hand out file descriptors to inodes in it,
> for both the kvm and the vcpu objects.
> * You replace the syscall you'd normally use to hand out a new kvm instance
> with an ioctl on /dev/kvm, and don't allow any other operations on that
> device.
>
> This would be a much more consistant object model, compared with other
> generic kernel functionality that is not bound to an actual device.
> You still have all the flexibility of a loadable module without core
> kernel changes for the development phase, and can easily switch to real
> syscalls when merging it into mainline.
>
I agree, that sounds like a good plan. I'll look into it.
BTW, what does lsof show for spufs users? I thought lsof /dev/kvm would
be a good way to look for virtual machines.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-10-30 9:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-10-29 13:31 [PATCH][RFC] KVM: prepare user interface for smp guests Avi Kivity
2006-10-29 13:31 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-30 0:01 ` [kvm-devel] " Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-30 0:01 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-30 9:08 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2006-10-30 9:08 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-30 12:19 ` [kvm-devel] " Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-30 12:19 ` Arnd Bergmann
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