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From: Paul Moore <paul.moore@hp.com>
To: James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>
Cc: vyekkirala@TrustedCS.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	selinux@tycho.nsa.gov, sds@tycho.nsa.gov
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] mlsxfrm: Various fixes
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 01:39:55 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4552CD3B.40809@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0611090109120.10907@d.namei>

James Morris wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Nov 2006, Paul Moore wrote:
> 
>>James Morris wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 8 Nov 2006, Paul Moore wrote:
>>>
>>>>1. Functionality is available right now, no additional kernel changes needed
>>>>2. No special handling for localhost, I tend to like the idea of having
>>>>consistent behavior for all addresses/interfaces
>>>
>>>I don't agree.  SO_PEERSEC should always just work for loopback, just like 
>>>with Unix sockets.
>>
>>My main concern is that we would have "special" behavior for a single IP address
>>   and that this behavior wouldn't be subject to the same labeled networking
>>configuration/management methods as the rest of the address space.
>  
> It's a very special case, and loopack networking has lots of special case 
> handling because of this.  It's nearly zero cost to have this work, and 
> then you get full SELinux control over local IP communications.

It sounds like you have an idea of how you would like to see this implemented,
can you give me a rough outline?  Is this the partitioned SECMARK field you
talked about earlier?

I'm asking because the only localhost SO_PEERSEC mechanism that I have seen that
didn't require explicit packet labeling was the secid approach which I think we
gave up on ...

-- 
paul moore
linux security @ hp

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From: Paul Moore <paul.moore@hp.com>
To: James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>
Cc: vyekkirala@TrustedCS.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	selinux@tycho.nsa.gov, sds@tycho.nsa.gov
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] mlsxfrm: Various fixes
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 01:39:55 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4552CD3B.40809@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0611090109120.10907@d.namei>

James Morris wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Nov 2006, Paul Moore wrote:
> 
>>James Morris wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 8 Nov 2006, Paul Moore wrote:
>>>
>>>>1. Functionality is available right now, no additional kernel changes needed
>>>>2. No special handling for localhost, I tend to like the idea of having
>>>>consistent behavior for all addresses/interfaces
>>>
>>>I don't agree.  SO_PEERSEC should always just work for loopback, just like 
>>>with Unix sockets.
>>
>>My main concern is that we would have "special" behavior for a single IP address
>>   and that this behavior wouldn't be subject to the same labeled networking
>>configuration/management methods as the rest of the address space.
>  
> It's a very special case, and loopack networking has lots of special case 
> handling because of this.  It's nearly zero cost to have this work, and 
> then you get full SELinux control over local IP communications.

It sounds like you have an idea of how you would like to see this implemented,
can you give me a rough outline?  Is this the partitioned SECMARK field you
talked about earlier?

I'm asking because the only localhost SO_PEERSEC mechanism that I have seen that
didn't require explicit packet labeling was the secid approach which I think we
gave up on ...

-- 
paul moore
linux security @ hp

  reply	other threads:[~2006-11-09  6:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-07 17:17 [PATCH 2/3] mlsxfrm: Various fixes Venkat Yekkirala
2006-11-07 17:17 ` Venkat Yekkirala
2006-11-07 20:38 ` James Morris
2006-11-07 20:38   ` James Morris
2006-11-08 14:31   ` Venkat Yekkirala
2006-11-08 14:31     ` Venkat Yekkirala
2006-11-09  4:08     ` Paul Moore
2006-11-09  4:08       ` Paul Moore
2006-11-09  4:38       ` James Morris
2006-11-09  4:38         ` James Morris
2006-11-09  4:59         ` Paul Moore
2006-11-09  4:59           ` Paul Moore
2006-11-09  6:15           ` James Morris
2006-11-09  6:15             ` James Morris
2006-11-09  6:39             ` Paul Moore [this message]
2006-11-09  6:39               ` Paul Moore
2006-11-09  7:02               ` James Morris
2006-11-09  7:02                 ` James Morris
2006-11-09 17:26                 ` Paul Moore
2006-11-09 17:26                   ` Paul Moore

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