System Call Interception

System Call Interception

[Neha Sood]

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Hi there,

I have a question related to intercepting guest OS system calls in Xen to provide logging mechanism. As a part of my project, i have to log all the system calls issued by the guest OS in the Xen hypervisor for secure logging. I am new to Xen and have been reading the source code. I have read about Fast Handler for system call. What is the fast handler and how the system call works in Xen. Could you please provide me some starting point how to do that? 

Will it be a very difficult to log guest OS system calls in Xen ? If no, how to start with and what are files have to be changed.

I would really appreciate your help.

Thanks,
Neha


 
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RE: System Call Interception

[Petersson, Mats]

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xensource.com 
> [mailto:xen-devel-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Neha Sood
> Sent: 19 November 2006 19:10
> To: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com
> Subject: [Xen-devel] System Call Interception
> 
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> I have a question related to intercepting guest OS system 
> calls in Xen to provide logging mechanism. As a part of my 
> project, i have to log all the system calls issued by the 
> guest OS in the Xen hypervisor for secure logging. I am new 
> to Xen and have been reading the source code. I have read 
> about Fast Handler for system call. What is the fast handler 
> and how the system call works in Xen. Could you please 
> provide me some starting point how to do that? 
> 
> Will it be a very difficult to log guest OS system calls in 
> Xen ? If no, how to start with and what are files have to be changed.

It may be difficult, seeing as Xen doesn't actually deal with OS system
calls per se. There is also, in the Linux kernel at least, a mechanism
for logging already, so what's wrong with that one? 

Note that unless you trust the kernel itself, no logging mechanism that
relies on knowing how the kernel operates will be reliable. Consider
that there is a method of getting kernel priviliges from user-mode
somehow, the code could then install it's own kernel trap mechanism that
bypasses the regular mechanism of logging. 

What if someone just redefines the regular kernel-trap interrupt number?

The syscall function is completely ignored by xen, and that is the
preferred way in modern kernels. 

Not to mention the problems with "fully virtualized" OS's...

--
Mats
> 
> I would really appreciate your help.
> 
> Thanks,
> Neha
> 
> 
> 
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Re: System Call Interception

[Anthony Liguori]

Neha Sood wrote:
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> I have a question related to intercepting guest OS system calls in Xen 
> to provide logging mechanism. As a part of my project, i have to log all 
> the system calls issued by the guest OS in the Xen hypervisor for secure 
> logging. I am new to Xen and have been reading the source code. I have 
> read about Fast Handler for system call. What is the fast handler and 
> how the system call works in Xen. Could you please provide me some 
> starting point how to do that?

On i386 at least, syscalls are delivered directly to the guest (they 
aren't intercepted by Xen).

I'm not sure if the same is true on x86-64 but at any rate, the first 
thing to do would be to make sure Xen intercepts syscalls.  You will 
have to find some mechanism to "log" these events which will likely 
involved a ring queue and some sort of daemon in dom0.

However, as Mats suggests, are you sure this is really what you want to 
do?  The audit infrastructure in Linux is designed just to do this sort 
of thing...

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

> Will it be a very difficult to log guest OS system calls in Xen ? If no, 
> how to start with and what are files have to be changed.
> 
> I would really appreciate your help.
> 
> Thanks,
> Neha
> 
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Re: Re: System Call Interception

[Mathieu Ropert]

Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Neha Sood wrote:
>>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I have a question related to intercepting guest OS system calls in 
>> Xen to provide logging mechanism. As a part of my project, i have to 
>> log all the system calls issued by the guest OS in the Xen hypervisor 
>> for secure logging. I am new to Xen and have been reading the source 
>> code. I have read about Fast Handler for system call. What is the 
>> fast handler and how the system call works in Xen. Could you please 
>> provide me some starting point how to do that?
>
> On i386 at least, syscalls are delivered directly to the guest (they 
> aren't intercepted by Xen).
>
> I'm not sure if the same is true on x86-64 but at any rate, the first 
> thing to do would be to make sure Xen intercepts syscalls.  You will 
> have to find some mechanism to "log" these events which will likely 
> involved a ring queue and some sort of daemon in dom0.
All syscalls go through Xen on x86-64 (as guest runs in ring3), so you 
can insert some logs in the handling code (xen/arch/x86/x86_64/entry.S).
But as stated before, would be much easier to do it in the guest kernel 
code for most OS. Now if you talk about logging calls from a 
non-modified guest (using HVM),  it should be theorically possible but i 
don't where you should insert your code (probably in the interrupt 
handling code somewhere in xen/arch/x86/hvm, can't be more precise 
though, don't know this part very well).
About the "fast" system call, it's a new feature added on x86-64 (and i 
think on the lastest x86 CPUs) to handle what it names says "fast system 
calls". It's used as an alternative to the software interrupts 
(generated by the "int" instruction) to handle system call faster than 
the usual way. They are entered via the "syscall" instruction and exited 
with "sysret" (some processors also implements the "sysenter" and 
"sysexit" instructions, check Intel/AMD manuals for more detail).

Regards,

Mathieu
>
> However, as Mats suggests, are you sure this is really what you want 
> to do?  The audit infrastructure in Linux is designed just to do this 
> sort of thing...
>
> Regards,
>
> Anthony Liguori
>
>> Will it be a very difficult to log guest OS system calls in Xen ? If 
>> no, how to start with and what are files have to be changed.
>>
>> I would really appreciate your help.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Neha
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>
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>> Calculate new house payment 
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>>
>>
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Re: Re: System Call Interception

[Adrian Chadd]

> >On i386 at least, syscalls are delivered directly to the guest (they 
> >aren't intercepted by Xen).

Also note that not all syscalls on all OSes are implemented the same
way - eg stuff like getpid()/gettimeofday()  might end up mapping to
some data hiding away in a page mapped to all processes. I'm not sure
Xen would even get involved in that (besides, perhaps, being involved
in page mapping?)

I forget which OSes I've seen do this by using dynamic linking magic;
solaris maybe?



Adrian

System Call Interception

[Neha Sood]

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Hi there,

I have a question related to intercepting guest OS system calls in Xen to provide logging mechanism.
As a part of my project, i have to log all the system calls issued by the guest OS in the Xen hypervisor for
secure logging. I am new to Xen and have been reading the source code. I have read about Fast Handler for system call. What is the fast handler and how the system call works in Xen. Could you please provide me some starting point how to do that?


Will it be a very difficult to log guest OS system calls in Xen ? If no, how to start with and what are files have to be changed.

I would really appreciate your help.

Thanks,
Neha






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