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From: Daniel Drake <dsd-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes-cdvu00un1VgdHxzADdlk8Q@public.gmane.org>
Cc: netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Stefano Brivio <st3-sGOZH3hwPm2sTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>,
	John Linville <linville-2XuSBdqkA4R54TAoqtyWWQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Michael Buesch <mb-fseUSCV1ubazQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Bcm43xx-dev-0fE9KPoRgkgATYTw5x5z8w@public.gmane.org,
	Larry Finger
	<Larry.Finger-tQ5ms3gMjBLk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] softmac: remove netif_tx_disable when scanning
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 11:37:36 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4569C2D0.8080406@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1164535408.21459.3.camel-YfaajirXv214zXjbi5bjpg@public.gmane.org>

Johannes Berg wrote:
> The problem is that queue disabling isn't refcounted so that a scan that
> collides with bcm43xx having disabled the queue for calibration might
> re-enable the queue while bcm43xx is still calibrating.

I agree with that part. However the other reason for the patch (transmit 
queue needed for active scanning) is bogus, and the patch introduces a 
problem where session frames may be transmitted during scanning (using 
TX queue control avoids that problem).

> Clearly, this doesn't fully fix the problem because softmac will try to
> transmit frames during the calibration. Hence, a proper fix would be to
> not remove the calls to netif_tx_disable but make them go through
> softmac (ieee80211_tx_disable) to make sure that softmac doesn't try to
> scan while the queues are disabled, which would fix the aforementioned
> problem of softmac enabling the queue while the driver needs it disabled
> for free.

Stack-level refcounted TX control like this would also be beneficial for 
zd1211rw, currently we have a semi-ugly implementation inside the driver.

> Also, for bcm43xx this isn't a problem since the firmware (optionally
> but we use that afaik) takes care of not transmitting frames that are
> tagged for a different channel than currently tuned to.

zd1211 has no such functionality :(

Michael Buesch wrote:
> Softmac ignoring
> this queue-disabled flag is just yet another bug.

Agreed, but this one isn't going to be fixed any time soon. This was the 
first point I raised against softmac during early zd1211rw development a 
long while back.

I agree with the objectives of this patch but the way I see it is that 
it trades one bug for another. A proper solution, as suggested by 
Johannes (refcounted stack-level TX control) would not be hard to 
implement and would solve the bug without introducing another.

Daniel

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-11-26 16:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-26  0:16 [PATCH] softmac: remove netif_tx_disable when scanning Larry Finger
2006-11-26  4:05 ` Daniel Drake
2006-11-26 10:03   ` Johannes Berg
2006-11-26 12:12     ` Michael Buesch
     [not found]       ` <200611261312.20442.mb-fseUSCV1ubazQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2006-11-26 13:05         ` Larry Finger
     [not found]           ` <4569912C.1000506-tQ5ms3gMjBLk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2006-11-26 13:06             ` Michael Buesch
     [not found]     ` <1164535408.21459.3.camel-YfaajirXv214zXjbi5bjpg@public.gmane.org>
2006-11-26 16:37       ` Daniel Drake [this message]
2006-11-26 16:51         ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]           ` <1164559882.22909.5.camel-YfaajirXv214zXjbi5bjpg@public.gmane.org>
2006-11-26 18:25             ` Daniel Drake
2006-11-26 18:40               ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]                 ` <1164566436.22909.26.camel-YfaajirXv214zXjbi5bjpg@public.gmane.org>
2006-11-26 19:03                   ` Larry Finger
2006-11-27  4:13                   ` Daniel Drake
2006-11-27 15:49         ` Michael Buesch
     [not found]   ` <45691273.9090803-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2006-11-26 10:07     ` Johannes Berg
2006-11-26 12:25   ` Michael Buesch

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