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From: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Paravirt KVM capabilities
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:42:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45A4D123.5070803@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070110111442.GA16867-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>

Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>   
>> For i386 Xen does not switch cr3 IIRC. [...]
>>     
>
> correct.
>
>   
>> [...] Perhaps even not for x86_64 if it can use the segment limits 
>> which AMD re-added (I think it does?)
>>     
>
> i'm not sure. Older ones definitely used cr3 switching and on Intel 
> there's no segment limits on 64-bit AFAIK.
>
>   

I'd be surprised if that remained the case for too long.


>> I think for i386 Xen does not go through the hypervisor at all: it 
>> hacks int 0x80 to trap directly to ring 1.  So there's still the 
>> overhead of using int rather than sysenter, but not much more. [...]
>>     
>
> that alone is already ~100-200 cycles overhead, it essentially doubles 
> the null syscall overhead. It matters at millions of syscalls per second 
> workloads, 100 cycles overhead at 1 million syscalls a second means 5% 
> performance difference at 2GHz.
>
>   

That doesn't strike me as too bad.


> and longer-term, the cost of VM exit due to IRQs is expected to get 
> cheaper. The cost of int $0x80 versus SYSENTER will stay constant, or 
> will get worse.
>   

Agreed.  But I still don't know whether the lines on the graph will cross.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-01-10 11:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-01-09 14:19 Paravirt KVM capabilities Hugo Mills
     [not found] ` <20070109141916.GA13276-qdzjUQGjHNdnxAzMjxVBUbVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-09 14:27   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]     ` <45A3A642.1030604-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-09 23:20       ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]         ` <1168384852.19646.161.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-10  9:47           ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]             ` <20070110094750.GA934-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-10 10:09               ` Ulrich Drepper
     [not found]                 ` <45A4BB74.9010102-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-10 10:18                   ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                     ` <20070110101839.GA6444-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-10 10:43                       ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                         ` <45A4C345.5050404-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-10 10:52                           ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                             ` <20070110105202.GA13412-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-10 11:03                               ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                 ` <45A4C7ED.8090003-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-10 11:14                                   ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                                     ` <20070110111442.GA16867-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-10 11:42                                       ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2007-01-10 18:00                                       ` Ulrich Drepper
     [not found]                                         ` <45A529DB.4030009-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-10 18:12                                           ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                             ` <45A52C8B.70608-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-10 18:27                                               ` Ulrich Drepper
     [not found]                                                 ` <45A53005.30300-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-10 18:35                                                   ` Avi Kivity
2007-01-10 17:00                                   ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]                                     ` <45A51BA2.9090005-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-10 17:23                                       ` Avi Kivity
2007-01-11  0:42                               ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]                                 ` <1168476120.19646.209.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-11  0:49                                   ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                                     ` <20070111004957.GA3279-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-11  2:39                                       ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]                                         ` <1168483188.19646.241.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-11  2:51                                           ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                                             ` <20070111025130.GB21368-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-11  3:21                                               ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]                                                 ` <1168485696.19646.250.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-11  9:38                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-10 10:46               ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]                 ` <1168425985.19646.205.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-10 11:00                   ` sean-cz32UWRuVxBIf6P1QZMOBw

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