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From: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Ulrich Drepper <drepper-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Paravirt KVM capabilities
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 20:12:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45A52C8B.70608@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45A529DB.4030009-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

Ulrich Drepper wrote:
> Ingo Molnar wrote:
>   
>> that alone is already ~100-200 cycles overhead, it essentially doubles 
>> the null syscall overhead. It matters at millions of syscalls per second 
>> workloads, 100 cycles overhead at 1 million syscalls a second means 5% 
>> performance difference at 2GHz.
>>     
>
> Plus, x86-64 uses only syscall which doesn't have the opportunity to be
> intercepted in ring 1, right?  That's the much more important target
> going forward.
>   

Agreed.  64-bit syscalls are much better with hardware assist.

[Everyone complains how x86 is loaded with 20+ years of cruft; AMD comes 
and cleans it up; then we discover how 4 rings and segmentation are 
actually useful]

[[Can't a paravirtualized kernel use a vdso to use int $0x80 instead of 
syscall?]]

-- 
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-01-10 18:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-01-09 14:19 Paravirt KVM capabilities Hugo Mills
     [not found] ` <20070109141916.GA13276-qdzjUQGjHNdnxAzMjxVBUbVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-09 14:27   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]     ` <45A3A642.1030604-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-09 23:20       ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]         ` <1168384852.19646.161.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-10  9:47           ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]             ` <20070110094750.GA934-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-10 10:09               ` Ulrich Drepper
     [not found]                 ` <45A4BB74.9010102-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-10 10:18                   ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                     ` <20070110101839.GA6444-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-10 10:43                       ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                         ` <45A4C345.5050404-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-10 10:52                           ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                             ` <20070110105202.GA13412-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-10 11:03                               ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                 ` <45A4C7ED.8090003-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-10 11:14                                   ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                                     ` <20070110111442.GA16867-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-10 11:42                                       ` Avi Kivity
2007-01-10 18:00                                       ` Ulrich Drepper
     [not found]                                         ` <45A529DB.4030009-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-10 18:12                                           ` Avi Kivity [this message]
     [not found]                                             ` <45A52C8B.70608-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-10 18:27                                               ` Ulrich Drepper
     [not found]                                                 ` <45A53005.30300-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-10 18:35                                                   ` Avi Kivity
2007-01-10 17:00                                   ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]                                     ` <45A51BA2.9090005-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-10 17:23                                       ` Avi Kivity
2007-01-11  0:42                               ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]                                 ` <1168476120.19646.209.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-11  0:49                                   ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                                     ` <20070111004957.GA3279-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-11  2:39                                       ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]                                         ` <1168483188.19646.241.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-11  2:51                                           ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                                             ` <20070111025130.GB21368-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-11  3:21                                               ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]                                                 ` <1168485696.19646.250.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-11  9:38                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-10 10:46               ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]                 ` <1168425985.19646.205.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-10 11:00                   ` sean-cz32UWRuVxBIf6P1QZMOBw

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