Re: [KJ] the current situation for the KJ wiki

From: Jaco Kroon <jaco@kroon.co.za>
To: kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [KJ] the current situation for the KJ wiki
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 05:56:43 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45C1811B.9030404@kroon.co.za> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070131135158.7c4fdffc.rdunlap@xenotime.net>

Bernd Petrovitsch wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 14:48 -0800, Randy Dunlap wrote:
> 
>>On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 00:15:29 +0200 Jaco Kroon wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
>>>Note: From hard experience I've learned that Wiki SPAM is just as bad
>>>(if not worse than) email-borne SPAM.  AVOID AT ALL COST!  And no,
>>>captchas simply does not stop spammers.
>>
>>who/what are captchas?
> 
> 
> The numbers and/or letters somewhat stretched in several directions with
> a quite random background where people are (supposed to be) able to read
> them quite easily (and copy them into some input field) and machines
> cannot easily decode them.
> In short: a test if there is a human in front of the webpage.

Correct, but in many cases OCR software can decipher them, and when that
isn't simple enough a human spammer can solve them at around a captcha
every 5 seconds, stil allowing a spammer to do about 20 posts per
minute, permitting he's willing to sit there the whole day and solve
captchas.  Or man-in-the-middle if he can construct a "popular" site on
which to represent the captchas to other people to solve.

>>>(btw, about half of the spam that now lands in my inbox comes via this
>>>mailing list, is anybody else also experiencing an escalation of spam
>>>coming in from this list?)
>>
>>I see an escalation from everywhere. :(
> 
> 
> ACK.

Yea, but my filters seem to be able to stop most of the other crap, so
perhaps I should rephrase, about half of the spam that actually makes it
to my inbox is via this list.  Oh, just btw, if I switch off all
filtering about 80 % of my incoming mail is spam, as it stands (after
filtering) I only get about 3 to 5 spams a day in my inbox, except when
some spammer goes totally balistic on the KJ mailing list in which case
it increases quite significantly.  I suspect this is due to the
spamassassin "autowhitelisting" features but I'm not 100 % sure.  That,
and much improved spamming techniques.

And yes, the amount of filtered spam has increased a lot recently, I'd
go almost as far as to say that it has doubled in the last 6 months.

Jaco
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