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From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: jos poortvliet <jos@mijnkamer.nl>
Cc: ck@vds.kolivas.org, Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@gmail.com>,
	Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] RSDL completely fair starvation free   interactive cpu scheduler
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 18:05:29 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45ECA239.5000306@tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200703041708.54953.jos@mijnkamer.nl>

jos poortvliet wrote:
> Op Sunday 04 March 2007, schreef Willy Tarreau:
>> Hi Con !
>>> This was designed to be robust for any application since linux demands a
>>> general purpose scheduler design, while preserving interactivity, instead
>>> of optimising for one particular end use.
>> Well, I haven't tested it yet, but your design choices please me. As you
>> know, I've been one of those encountering big starvation problems with
>> the original scheduler, making 2.6 unusable for me in many situations. I
>> welcome your work and want to thank you for the time you spend trying to
>> fix it.
>>
>> Keep up the good work,
>> Willy
>>
>> PS: I've looked at your graphs, I hope you're on the way to something
>> really better than the 21 first 2.6 releases !
> Well, imho his current staircase scheduler already does a better job compared 
> to mainline, but it won't make it in (or at least, it's not likely). So we 
> can hope this WILL make it into mainline, but I wouldn't count on it.
> 
Wrong problem, what is really needed is to get CPU scheduler choice into 
mainline, just as i/o scheduler finally did. Con has noted that for some 
loads this will present suboptimal performance, as will his -ck patches, 
as will the default scheduler. Instead of trying to make ANY one size 
fit all, we should have a means to select, at runtime, between any of 
the schedulers, and preferably to define an interface by which a user 
can insert a new scheduler in the kernel (compile in, I don't mean 
plugable) with clear and well defined rules for how that can be done.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot

  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-05 23:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-04  7:00 [ANNOUNCE] RSDL completely fair starvation free interactive cpu scheduler Con Kolivas
2007-03-04  7:45 ` [ck] " Con Kolivas
2007-03-04 14:04   ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-04 11:08 ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-04 11:47   ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-04 12:24     ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-04 12:46       ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-04 13:25         ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-04 13:49           ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-04 14:11             ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-05  2:31               ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2007-03-05  3:16                 ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-04 14:36             ` Willy Tarreau
2007-03-04 16:08               ` [ck] " jos poortvliet
2007-03-05 23:05                 ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2007-03-06  0:18                   ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-06  4:41                     ` Willy Tarreau
2007-03-06  5:39                       ` Nicholas Miell
2007-03-06 19:04                       ` jos poortvliet
2007-03-06 21:37                       ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-06 21:54                         ` Willy Tarreau
2007-03-05 21:52 ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-08  8:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 10:07   ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-08 20:25 ` Fabio Comolli
2007-03-08 20:57   ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-08 21:31     ` Fabio Comolli
2007-03-09 21:11 ` [ck] " Rodney Gordon II
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-03-04 20:35 Al Boldi
2007-03-04 21:49 ` Con Kolivas
     [not found]   ` <45EB45F7.3050208@simon.arlott.org.uk>
2007-03-04 22:27     ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-05 18:29       ` Simon Arlott
2007-03-05 21:36         ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-04 23:13   ` Willy Tarreau
2007-03-04 23:58     ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-05  1:09     ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-06  8:42 ` [ck] " Xavier Bestel
2007-03-06 15:15   ` Al Boldi
2007-03-11 18:11     ` Al Boldi
2007-03-11 21:52       ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-11 22:12         ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-12  4:42           ` Al Boldi
2007-03-12  4:53             ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-12 11:26               ` Al Boldi
2007-03-12 12:52                 ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-12 14:14                   ` Al Boldi
2007-03-12 14:58                     ` [ck] " jos poortvliet
2007-03-12 17:41                       ` Al Boldi
2007-03-12 18:05                     ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-18  1:30                   ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-05  9:45 Nicolas Mailhot
2007-03-05  9:53 ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-05 10:00   ` Nicolas Mailhot
2007-03-05 15:22   ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2007-03-05 18:37     ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-05 18:20   ` Lee Revell
2007-03-05 19:19     ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-05 22:40       ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-05 23:19         ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-06  2:23       ` Ed Tomlinson
2007-03-06  2:54         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-06  3:36           ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-09  4:04           ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-09  6:31             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-09  7:04               ` Bill Huey
2007-03-09 10:54               ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-03-09 14:54               ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-09 18:11                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-06 17:50   ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-06 20:06     ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-09  4:21       ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-06  4:57 Shawn Starr
2007-03-08 14:27 Tim Tassonis
2007-03-11 22:29 bert hubert
2007-03-11 22:57 ` Con Kolivas

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