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From: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
To: Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com>
Cc: ck list <ck@vds.kolivas.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] RSDL completely fair starvation free interactive cpu scheduler
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 05:05:04 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200703130505.05132.kernel@kolivas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200703121714.25034.a1426z@gawab.com>

On Tuesday 13 March 2007 01:14, Al Boldi wrote:
> Con Kolivas wrote:
> > > > The higher priority one always get 6-7ms whereas the lower priority
> > > > one runs 6-7ms and then one larger perfectly bound expiration amount.
> > > > Basically exactly as I'd expect. The higher priority task gets
> > > > precisely RR_INTERVAL maximum latency whereas the lower priority task
> > > > gets RR_INTERVAL min and full expiration (according to the virtual
> > > > deadline) as a maximum. That's exactly how I intend it to work. Yes I
> > > > realise that the max latency ends up being longer intermittently on
> > > > the niced task but that's -in my opinion- perfectly fine as a
> > > > compromise to ensure the nice 0 one always gets low latency.
> > >
> > > I think, it should be possible to spread this max expiration latency
> > > across the rotation, should it not?
> >
> > There is a way that I toyed with of creating maps of slots to use for
> > each different priority, but it broke the O(1) nature of the virtual
> > deadline management. Minimising algorithmic complexity seemed more
> > important to maintain than getting slightly better latency spreads for
> > niced tasks. It also appeared to be less cache friendly in design. I
> > could certainly try and implement it but how much importance are we to
> > place on latency of niced tasks? Are you aware of any usage scenario
> > where latency sensitive tasks are ever significantly niced in the real
> > world?
>
> It only takes one negatively nice'd proc to affect X adversely.

I have an idea. Give me some time to code up my idea. Lack of sleep is making 
me very unpleasant.

-- 
-ck

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-03-12 18:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 247+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-04 20:35 [ANNOUNCE] RSDL completely fair starvation free interactive cpu scheduler Al Boldi
2007-03-04 21:49 ` Con Kolivas
     [not found]   ` <45EB45F7.3050208@simon.arlott.org.uk>
2007-03-04 22:27     ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-05 18:29       ` Simon Arlott
2007-03-05 21:36         ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-04 23:13   ` Willy Tarreau
2007-03-04 23:58     ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-05  0:10     ` [ck] " jos poortvliet
2007-03-05  1:09     ` Gene Heskett
     [not found] ` <200703050834.45712.a1426z@gawab.com>
     [not found]   ` <20070305060732.GQ30401@nysv.org>
2007-03-05 11:59     ` [ck] " Al Boldi
2007-03-05 12:29       ` Con Kolivas
     [not found]         ` <200703052123.01095.a1426z@gawab.com>
2007-03-05 22:10           ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-06  8:42             ` Xavier Bestel
2007-03-06 15:15               ` Al Boldi
2007-03-11 18:11                 ` Al Boldi
2007-03-11 21:52                   ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-11 22:12                     ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-12  4:42                       ` Al Boldi
2007-03-12  4:53                         ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-12 11:26                           ` Al Boldi
2007-03-12 12:52                             ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-12 14:14                               ` Al Boldi
2007-03-12 14:58                                 ` [ck] " jos poortvliet
2007-03-12 16:37                                   ` michael chang
2007-03-12 17:41                                   ` Al Boldi
2007-03-12 18:05                                 ` Con Kolivas [this message]
2007-03-12 18:47                                   ` [ck] " jos poortvliet
2007-03-12 18:58                                     ` Antonio Vargas
2007-03-19 10:47                                       ` Helge Hafting
2007-03-18  1:30                               ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-18 10:50                               ` [ck] " jos poortvliet
2007-03-13 15:31                             ` [PATCH] [RSDL-0.30] sched: rsdl improve latencies with differential nice Con Kolivas
2007-03-13 16:03                               ` [PATCH] [RSDL-0.30] sched: rsdl improve latencies with differential nice -1 Con Kolivas
2007-03-13 16:08                                 ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-13 20:58                                 ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-13 23:08                                   ` RSDL development plans Con Kolivas
2007-03-16 12:25                                     ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-16 13:40                                       ` RSDL v0.31 Con Kolivas
2007-03-16 15:34                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-16 21:13                                           ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-16 22:30                                             ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-16 23:05                                               ` [ck] " Dirk Schoebel
2007-03-17  4:24                                               ` Nicholas Miell
2007-03-17  5:56                                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-17  6:08                                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-17 13:56                                                     ` Ed Tomlinson
2007-03-18 19:37                                                     ` Lee Revell
2007-03-18 19:55                                                       ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-18 22:45                                                       ` Szonyi Calin
2007-03-19  2:27                                                     ` David Schwartz
2007-03-19  6:21                                                       ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-19  6:59                                                         ` Willy Tarreau
2007-03-17  6:26                                                   ` Nicholas Miell
2007-03-17  7:11                                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-17  7:25                                                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-03-17  7:29                                                         ` Nicholas Miell
2007-03-17 11:48                                                       ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-17  7:45                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-17  7:44                                                       ` David Lang
2007-03-17  8:46                                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-17 14:09                                                           ` [ck] " Mark Glines
2007-03-17 14:33                                                             ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-17 14:54                                                               ` Mark Glines
2007-03-17 14:58                                                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-17  8:23                                                       ` Nicholas Miell
2007-03-17  9:42                                                         ` [patch] CFS scheduler: Completely Fair Scheduler / CONFIG_SCHED_FAIR Ingo Molnar
2007-03-17  8:41                                                       ` RSDL v0.31 Serge Belyshev
2007-03-17  9:48                                                         ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-17  9:58                                                           ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-17 10:49                                                             ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-17 12:05                                                               ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-17 13:36                                                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-17 17:03                                                                   ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-17 17:37                                                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-17 18:23                                                                       ` [ck] " Kacper Wysocki
2007-03-17 18:45                                                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-17 13:58                                                             ` michael chang
2007-03-17 20:55                                                             ` Al Boldi
2007-03-18  6:17                                                               ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-18  6:47                                                                 ` Kasper Sandberg
2007-03-18  7:08                                                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-18  7:22                                                                     ` [ck] " Radoslaw Szkodzinski
2007-03-18  7:38                                                                       ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-18  8:04                                                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-18  8:20                                                                         ` jimmy bahuleyan
2007-03-18  8:34                                                                           ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-18  9:57                                                                         ` Kasper Sandberg
2007-03-18 13:57                                                                           ` Avuton Olrich
2007-03-19 20:47                                                                           ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-20 10:19                                                                             ` jos poortvliet
2007-03-21  8:58                                                                             ` Kasper Sandberg
2007-03-18 15:44                                                                         ` Radoslaw Szkodzinski
2007-03-18 16:09                                                                           ` jos poortvliet
2007-03-19 16:07                                                               ` Mark Lord
2007-03-19 16:26                                                                 ` Xavier Bestel
2007-03-19 16:36                                                                   ` Mark Lord
2007-03-19 16:43                                                                     ` Xavier Bestel
2007-03-20  3:11                                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-20  6:11                                                                         ` Willy Tarreau
2007-03-20  8:03                                                                           ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-21 14:57                                                                             ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-21 16:02                                                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-21 17:06                                                                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-22  7:07                                                                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-22  9:18                                                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-22  9:34                                                                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-22  9:41                                                                                       ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-22 22:03                                                                                     ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-22 22:50                                                                                   ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-23  4:39                                                                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-23  5:59                                                                                       ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-23  6:11                                                                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-23 12:17                                                                                         ` Mike Galbraith
     [not found]                                                                               ` <20070321161147.54c7a727@localhost>
2007-03-21 17:07                                                                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-22  4:49                                                                                   ` Willy Tarreau
2007-03-22  7:14                                                                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-20  9:03                                                                           ` Xavier Bestel
2007-03-20 12:31                                                                             ` Artur Skawina
2007-03-20 19:16                                                                               ` Artur Skawina
2007-03-21  7:50                                                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-21 10:43                                                                               ` David Schwartz
2007-03-28 23:37                                                                                 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-29  7:10                                                                                   ` David Schwartz
2007-03-29  7:34                                                                                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-20 15:31                                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-20 18:08                                                                             ` Al Boldi
2007-03-21  8:22                                                                             ` Keith Duthie
2007-03-28 23:43                                                                             ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-20 10:26                                                                         ` [ck] " jos poortvliet
2007-03-20 13:22                                                                         ` Mark Lord
2007-03-20 15:16                                                                           ` Ray Lee
2007-03-20 15:20                                                                             ` Mark Lord
2007-03-21  8:55                                                                             ` Kasper Sandberg
2007-03-19 20:53                                                                 ` Al Boldi
2007-03-20 19:50                                                                   ` Artur Skawina
2007-03-21  4:15                                                                     ` Al Boldi
2007-03-21 17:24                                                                       ` Artur Skawina
2007-03-19 16:03                                                             ` Mark Lord
2007-03-17 11:49                                                           ` is RSDL an "unfair" scheduler too? Ingo Molnar
2007-03-17 12:02                                                             ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-17 12:23                                                               ` [ck] " jos poortvliet
2007-03-17 17:31                                                                 ` David Schwartz
2007-03-17 12:28                                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-17 12:43                                                                 ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-17 16:34                                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-18  3:23                                                                     ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-18  2:13                                                                   ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-18  3:20                                                                     ` Kasper Sandberg
2007-03-18  5:37                                                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-18 10:58                                                                       ` [ck] " jos poortvliet
2007-03-17 12:15                                                             ` jos poortvliet
2007-03-17 20:41                                                             ` Avi Kivity
2007-03-18  1:25                                                               ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-03-18  1:32                                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-18  5:24                                                                   ` Willy Tarreau
2007-03-18  5:55                                                                     ` Avi Kivity
2007-03-19  2:27                                                                       ` David Schwartz
2007-03-19 13:27                                                                         ` Radoslaw Szkodzinski
2007-03-19 18:30                                                                           ` David Lang
2007-03-19 15:25                                                                         ` Avi Kivity
2007-03-19 16:06                                                                           ` Helge Hafting
2007-03-19 16:37                                                                             ` Avi Kivity
2007-03-18  6:09                                                                     ` Bill Huey
2007-03-18  6:37                                                                       ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-18  7:35                                                                         ` Bill Huey
2007-03-19 21:14                                                                       ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-18  6:26                                                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-18  6:54                                                                       ` [ck] " Radoslaw Szkodzinski
2007-03-18  7:58                                                                         ` Willy Tarreau
2007-03-18  8:45                                                                           ` Avi Kivity
2007-03-18  5:00                                                                 ` Avi Kivity
2007-03-17 15:13                                                           ` RSDL v0.31 Mark Hahn
2007-03-17 17:22                                                             ` Stephen Clark
2007-03-19 15:06                                                             ` Chris Friesen
2007-03-17  7:56                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-17 11:07                                                       ` [ck] " jos poortvliet
2007-03-17 12:44                                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-17 13:44                                                           ` jos poortvliet
2007-03-17 14:04                                                         ` [ck] " Ed Tomlinson
2007-03-17 14:32                                               ` Rik van Riel
2007-03-17 14:43                                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-17 15:39                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16 17:12                                         ` AshMilsted
2007-03-16 17:41                                           ` Gabriel C
2007-03-16 21:55                                         ` Al Boldi
2007-03-17  2:51                                           ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-17  4:40                                             ` Al Boldi
2007-03-17  4:57                                               ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-17  5:15                                                 ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-17 13:50                                                 ` Ed Tomlinson
2007-03-17 16:12                                                 ` Al Boldi
2007-03-16 13:42                                       ` RSDL development plans Mike Galbraith
2007-03-16 13:59                                         ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-16 14:07                                           ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-14  9:13                               ` [PATCH] [RSDL-0.30] sched: rsdl improve latencies with differential nice Mike Galbraith
2007-03-14  9:25                                 ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-14  9:42                                   ` Mike Galbraith
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-03-11 22:29 [ANNOUNCE] RSDL completely fair starvation free interactive cpu scheduler bert hubert
2007-03-11 22:57 ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-08 14:27 Tim Tassonis
2007-03-06  4:57 Shawn Starr
2007-03-05  9:45 Nicolas Mailhot
2007-03-05  9:53 ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-05 10:00   ` Nicolas Mailhot
2007-03-05 15:22   ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2007-03-05 18:37     ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-05 18:20   ` Lee Revell
2007-03-05 19:19     ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-05 22:40       ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-05 23:19         ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-06  2:23       ` Ed Tomlinson
2007-03-06  2:54         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-06  3:36           ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-09  4:04           ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-09  6:31             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-09  7:04               ` Bill Huey
2007-03-09 10:54               ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-03-09 14:54               ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-09 18:11                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-06 17:50   ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-06 20:06     ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-09  4:21       ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-04  7:00 Con Kolivas
2007-03-04  7:45 ` [ck] " Con Kolivas
2007-03-04 14:04   ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-04 11:08 ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-04 11:47   ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-04 12:24     ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-04 12:46       ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-04 13:25         ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-04 13:49           ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-04 14:11             ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-05  2:31               ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2007-03-05  3:16                 ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-04 14:36             ` Willy Tarreau
2007-03-04 16:08               ` [ck] " jos poortvliet
2007-03-05 23:05                 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-06  0:18                   ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-06  4:41                     ` Willy Tarreau
2007-03-06  5:39                       ` Nicholas Miell
2007-03-06 19:04                       ` jos poortvliet
2007-03-06 21:37                       ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-06 21:54                         ` Willy Tarreau
2007-03-05 21:52 ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-08  8:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 10:07   ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-08 20:25 ` Fabio Comolli
2007-03-08 20:57   ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-08 21:31     ` Fabio Comolli

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