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From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: Phillip Susi <psusi@cfl.rr.com>
Cc: Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz@lucidpixels.com>,
	linux@horizon.com, htejun@gmail.com, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Why is NCQ enabled by default by libata? (2.6.20)
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 14:51:34 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <460C0AB6.9020709@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <460BF73C.5070707@cfl.rr.com>

Phillip Susi wrote:
> Jeff Garzik wrote:
>> NCQ provides for a more asynchronous flow.  It helps greatly with 
>> reads (of which most are, by nature, synchronous at the app level) 
>> from multiple threads or apps.  It helps with writes, even with write 
>> cache on, by allowing multiple commands to be submitted and/or retired 
>> at the same time.
> 
> But when writing, what is the difference between queuing multiple tagged 
> writes, and sending down multiple untagged cached writes that complete 
> immediately and actually hit the disk later?  Either way the host keeps 
> sending writes to the disk until it's buffers are full, and the disk is 
> constantly trying to commit those buffers to the media in the most 
> optimal order.

Less overhead to starting commands, and all the other benefits of making 
operations fully async.

	Jeff




  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-03-29 18:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-27 16:16 Why is NCQ enabled by default by libata? (2.6.20) linux
2007-03-27 16:25 ` Justin Piszcz
2007-03-27 16:41   ` linux
2007-03-27 16:44     ` Justin Piszcz
2007-03-27 16:58       ` linux
2007-03-27 17:03         ` Justin Piszcz
2007-03-28 14:42   ` Phillip Susi
2007-03-28 14:48     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-03-28 15:22       ` Andy Warner
2007-03-29 17:28       ` Phillip Susi
2007-03-29 18:40         ` linux
2007-03-29 18:51         ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2007-03-29 21:35         ` Alan Cox
2007-03-29 21:47         ` David Schwartz
2007-03-30 16:33           ` Lennart Sorensen
     [not found] <fa.NmF2xJwO4BeVbJrFRkf7oV9EYmQ@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.39luedDWsoqip+QMNtfAv8jvyNg@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]   ` <fa.b1cZfpMNhZ0teK/UauKLDWw60Jc@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]     ` <fa.xWaBy6HZTRTgI+PxinV8ajuOlJI@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]       ` <fa.BiSx71HKysC9QIpS8DLip5BmfxI@ifi.uio.no>
2007-04-01 17:28         ` Robert Hancock
     [not found] <fa.MhN9pBMjZID4rnTNn+fU01uZiss@ifi.uio.no>
2007-03-24 22:11 ` Robert Hancock
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-03-24 16:38 Justin Piszcz
2007-03-24 18:43 ` Alan Cox
2007-03-27  9:55   ` Justin Piszcz
2007-03-27 10:10     ` Tejun Heo
2007-03-27 10:30       ` Justin Piszcz
2007-03-27  5:59 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-03-27 14:26   ` Mark Lord
2007-03-27 18:18   ` Mark Rustad
2007-03-27 18:38     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-03-27 22:12       ` Mark Rustad
2007-03-31 12:55         ` Ric Wheeler

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