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From: Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: getting processor numbers
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 10:45:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <461292BF.5020803@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070403173505.GD23689@one.firstfloor.org>

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Andi Kleen wrote:
>>> Topology is dependent on the number of CPUs.
>> Not all of it.
> 
> What is not?

Memory banks can exist without a CPU present.  The places where you can
plug in memory don't change and so the memory hierarchy can be described.


> Hmm, e.g. in OpenMP you would have another thread that just reads /proc/cpuinfo
> in a loop and starts new threads on new CPUs?
> 
> That sounds ...... "expensive" 

That's the cost of doing business.

There is an inexpensive solution: finally make the vdso concept a bit
more flexible.  You could add a vdso call to get the processor count.
The vdso code itself can use a data page mapped in from the kernel.
This page (read-only at userlevel) would contain global information such
as processor count and topology.


But we're getting IMO off topic here.  That's a separate and far more
complicated issue.

Here we now have the concrete issue that determining the CPU count is
terribly expensive and there is a simple proposal to make it faster by
keeping /sys/devices/system/cpu/ free from anything but cpu* directories.

-- 
➧ Ulrich Drepper ➧ Red Hat, Inc. ➧ 444 Castro St ➧ Mountain View, CA ❖


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  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-03 17:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-03 16:54 getting processor numbers Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-03 17:30 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2007-04-03 17:37   ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-03 17:56 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2007-04-03 18:11 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-03 17:17   ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-03 17:22     ` Alan Cox
2007-04-03 17:30       ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-03 20:24         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-03 17:27     ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-03 17:30       ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-03 17:35         ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-03 17:45           ` Ulrich Drepper [this message]
2007-04-03 17:58             ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-03 18:05               ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-03 18:11                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-03 18:21                   ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-03 17:44         ` Siddha, Suresh B
2007-04-03 17:59           ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-03 19:40             ` Jakub Jelinek
2007-04-03 20:13             ` Ingo Oeser
2007-04-03 23:38               ` J.A. Magallón
2007-04-03 19:55           ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-03 20:13             ` Siddha, Suresh B
2007-04-03 20:19               ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-03 20:32                 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-03 20:20             ` Nathan Lynch
2007-04-03 19:15 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-04-03 19:32   ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-04  0:31     ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-04  0:35       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-04  0:38         ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-04  5:09           ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-04  5:16             ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-04  5:22               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-04  5:40                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-04  5:46                   ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-04  5:29               ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-03 20:16 ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]   ` <4612BB89.8040102@redhat.com>
     [not found]     ` <20070403141348.9bcdb13e.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
2007-04-03 22:13       ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-03 22:48         ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-03 23:00           ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-03 23:23             ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-03 23:54               ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-04  2:55               ` Paul Jackson
2007-04-04  8:39               ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-04  9:39                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-04  8:57                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-04 10:01                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-04  2:58             ` Paul Jackson
2007-04-04  3:04             ` Paul Jackson
2007-04-04  2:52           ` Paul Jackson
2007-04-04  2:04   ` Paul Jackson
2007-04-04  6:47     ` Jakub Jelinek
2007-04-04  7:02       ` Paul Jackson
2007-04-04 14:51       ` Cliff Wickman

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