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From: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, dim@openvz.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, jgarzik@pobox.com,
	containers@lists.osdl.org, kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru,
	shemminger@linux-foundation.org, greearb@candelatech.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: Add etun driver
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 13:09:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <461B7060.8000407@trash.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1176202930.8459.81.camel@johannes.berg>

Johannes Berg wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-04-10 at 12:46 +0200, Patrick McHardy wrote:
> 
> 
>>The main advantage that we don't get more weird sysfs/proc/ioctl based
>>interfaces
> 
> 
> Please don't put me into a corner I don't want to be in ;) The new
> wireless stuff was completely designed using netlink. The sysfs
> interface to these two specific things was a concession since it used to
> exist before and we don't really have a fully functional userspace tool
> yet.


I know :) It was a few month ago when I noticed the new bonding
sysfs interface when I first thought that we really need this.

>> and use the same interface that is used for all other network
>>configuration, which f.e. will allow to add support for all software
>>devices to iproute without much effort, so you don't need 30 different
>>tools for configuring the different software device types anymore.
>>Additionally we get atomic setup/dumps and extensibility.
> 
> 
> I don't think wireless can get away without a new tool. So much stuff
> there. Look at
> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/linville/wireless-dev.git;a=blob;f=include/linux/nl80211.h;hb=HEAD


Maybe not wireless, but bonding, briding, vlan, etun, possibly more.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-10 11:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-06 20:43 [PATCH] net: Add etun driver Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-06 20:34 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-04-06 21:38   ` Ben Greear
2007-04-06 20:54     ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-04-06 22:01       ` Ben Greear
2007-04-07  2:51   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-09 16:37     ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-09 16:58       ` Patrick McHardy
2007-04-09 18:14         ` Ben Greear
2007-04-09 18:37           ` David Miller
2007-04-09 18:48             ` Ben Greear
2007-04-09 18:45           ` Patrick McHardy
2007-04-09 18:44         ` David Miller
2007-04-09 19:35           ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-09 19:48             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-09 20:03             ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-09 20:11             ` Patrick McHardy
2007-04-09 20:29               ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-10  0:06                 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-04-10  5:47                   ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-10  6:08                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-10  6:18                       ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-10  7:52                     ` Patrick McHardy
2007-04-10  9:18                       ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-10  9:52                         ` Patrick McHardy
2007-04-10 10:27                           ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-10 10:46                             ` Patrick McHardy
2007-04-10 11:02                               ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-10 11:09                                 ` Patrick McHardy [this message]
2007-04-10 11:16                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-10 11:24                                   ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-10 12:05                                     ` Patrick McHardy
2007-04-10 13:44                                       ` John W. Linville
2007-04-10 13:48                                       ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-10 21:16                   ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-11 16:15                     ` Patrick McHardy
2007-04-11 16:43                       ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-11 16:52                         ` Patrick McHardy
2007-04-11 16:59                           ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-11 16:16                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-04-06 20:57 ` Roland Dreier
2007-04-07  2:08   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-06 21:20 ` Ben Greear
2007-04-07  2:06   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-07  3:31     ` Ben Greear
2007-04-07  5:37       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-07  7:31         ` Ben Greear

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