From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/13] maps: pagemap, kpagemap, and related cleanups
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 12:11:53 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <461EE6E9.3070104@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070413013840.GK11115@waste.org>
Matt Mackall wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 11:01:41AM +1000, Nick Piggin wrote:
>
>>>Basically: to show what the hell's going on in the VM.
>>
>>kprobes / systemtap isn't good enough?
>
>
> It's not really a good match to the kprobes model. I'm not interested
> in events, per se. I don't want to need to know about every single
> alloc/free of N different varieties integrated from boot onward to
> build up an image of the state of the system. Instead, I want to take
> snapshots of the state of the VM.
Systemtap can't output a large set of values?
Why can't you attach a kprobe to a dummy syscall, and from there
iterate over pgdat/zone/memmap and output what you want?
Actually I'm surprised that kind of data querying facility isn't
already in there (I haven't used it seriously though).
> The main goal here is to be able to answer the question "where's my
> memory going?". Currently you can't really give a good answer to that
> question from userspace because of shared mappings, etc.
>
> There are lots of secondary questions that follow on very quickly from
> that, like "what parts of my shared mappings are or aren't shared, and
> why?", "what's actually in my application's working set?" and "how much
> of this crap can I ditch?".
I understand roughly what you want, and that you can't easily get
it from /proc currently. My question at this point is just why can
we not use systemtap.
--
SUSE Labs, Novell Inc.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-13 2:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-04 2:43 [PATCH 0/13] maps: pagemap, kpagemap, and related cleanups Matt Mackall
2007-04-04 2:43 ` [PATCH 1/13] maps: Uninline some functions in the page walker Matt Mackall
2007-04-04 2:43 ` [PATCH 2/13] maps: Eliminate the pmd_walker struct " Matt Mackall
2007-04-04 2:43 ` [PATCH 3/13] maps: Remove vma from args " Matt Mackall
2007-04-04 2:43 ` [PATCH 4/13] maps: Propagate errors from callback in " Matt Mackall
2007-04-04 2:43 ` [PATCH 5/13] maps: Add callbacks for each level to " Matt Mackall
2007-04-04 2:43 ` [PATCH 6/13] maps: Move the page walker code to lib/ Matt Mackall
2007-04-04 3:51 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-04 5:08 ` Matt Mackall
2007-04-04 5:50 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-04 21:48 ` Matt Mackall
2007-04-05 1:32 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-05 1:50 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-04 2:43 ` [PATCH 7/13] maps: Simplify interdependence of /proc/pid/maps and smaps Matt Mackall
2007-04-04 2:43 ` [PATCH 8/13] maps: Move clear_refs code to task_mmu.c Matt Mackall
2007-04-04 2:43 ` [PATCH 9/13] maps: Regroup task_mmu by interface Matt Mackall
2007-04-04 2:43 ` [PATCH 10/13] maps: Make /proc/pid/smaps optional under CONFIG_EMBEDDED Matt Mackall
2007-04-04 2:43 ` [PATCH 11/13] maps: Make /proc/pid/clear_refs option " Matt Mackall
2007-04-04 6:22 ` David Rientjes
2007-04-04 2:43 ` [PATCH 12/13] maps: Add /proc/pid/pagemap interface Matt Mackall
2007-04-04 11:18 ` Nikita Danilov
2007-04-04 16:32 ` Matt Mackall
2007-04-04 18:03 ` Nikita Danilov
2007-04-04 21:59 ` Matt Mackall
2007-04-04 2:43 ` [PATCH 13/13] maps: Add /proc/kpagemap interface Matt Mackall
2007-04-12 23:10 ` [PATCH 0/13] maps: pagemap, kpagemap, and related cleanups William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-12 23:32 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-12 23:42 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-13 0:25 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-13 0:15 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-13 0:25 ` Matt Mackall
2007-04-13 1:01 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-13 1:38 ` Matt Mackall
2007-04-13 2:11 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2007-04-13 0:42 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-13 1:14 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-13 1:22 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-13 1:42 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-13 1:57 ` Matt Mackall
2007-04-13 2:21 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-13 2:23 ` Matt Mackall
2007-04-13 2:54 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-13 12:24 ` Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli
2007-04-14 8:13 ` Maneesh Soni
2007-04-13 1:57 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-13 2:05 ` Matt Mackall
2007-04-13 2:29 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-13 2:18 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-13 2:32 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-13 2:50 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-13 3:10 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-13 6:53 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-13 7:05 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-13 7:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-13 8:03 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-13 8:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-13 8:25 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-13 9:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-13 21:17 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2007-04-16 10:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-16 21:36 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-16 21:01 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2007-04-13 8:15 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-13 12:13 ` Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli
2007-04-13 12:46 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-13 3:40 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-13 6:55 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-13 7:03 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-13 7:08 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-13 14:08 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-16 11:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-13 17:13 ` Matt Mackall
2007-04-13 16:24 ` Matt Mackall
2007-04-13 17:03 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-13 17:24 ` Matt Mackall
2007-04-13 17:58 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-13 0:15 ` Matt Mackall
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