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From: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Gregory Haskins <ghaskins-Et1tbQHTxzrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
	Davide Libenzi <davidel-AhlLAIvw+VEjIGhXcJzhZg@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/10] KVM: Adds ability to signal	userspace using a	file-descriptor
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 15:22:32 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46485488.2010608@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46481A61.BA47.005A.0-Et1tbQHTxzrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

Gregory Haskins wrote:
>>
>> Is having a read() (or a write()) actually necessary?
>>     
>
> Based on what I know: yes.  It could be a case of ignorance, however ;)
>
> Heres why I think its necessary:  You need poll to simply tell you when something is pending.  You can't clear the pending status in poll because you cannot predict the internal access pattern (e.g. I assume it could be polled multiple times by the kernel without returning immediately to userspace).  Therefore, you need a second method to actually clear the pending "signal", which I use the read() method for.  I can be convinced otherwise, but that was my original thinking.
>   

I think you are right, but am cc'ing an expert. Davide, we're using an 
fd to signal something to userspace, but have nothing to actually read() 
or write(). Is a read() or write() avoidable?

>   
>>> +
>>> +	if (indirect_sig && waitqueue_active(&vcpu- >irq.wq))
>>> +		wake_up(&vcpu- >irq.wq);
>>>  }
>>>  
>>>   
>>>       
>> Did you check that we can actually deliver signals with this?  I think a 
>> fasync_struct or something like that is necessary, but not sure.
>>     
>
> Actually, my signals *didn't* seem to be working, but they werent working with "send_sig()" either so I just assumed I had a userspace coding problem.  Based on what I read, it seemed like what I did should work if you do a fcntl(F_SETSIG), etc.  But again, it could be ignorance.  I am not familiar with fasync_struct.  If you have any pointers, please forward.
>
>   

fs/pipe.c. hairy stuff.

>> Another implementation option (which I've only thought of now, sorry) is 
>> to have an ioctl which returns a real eventfd, reducing some code 
>> duplication.
>>     
>
> So based on this, I assume eventfd must be in the kernel already?  Cool.

It is in 2.6.22-rc1. As is the anonymous inodes source which can be used 
to retire kvmfs (which will probably break the record for shortest-lived 
filesystem ever).

>   Even if its not, I like this idea much better than what I did.  There was still an unresolved problem regarding how I was going to expose the signaling mechanism to QEMU without giving away the vcpu_fd from the kvmctl library that this solves nicely.
>
> With this methodology, I can simply provide a function like "kvm_vcpu_get_eventfd()" in the library, and return the eventfd directly to the QEMU process.  Then we dont have to worry about layering violations.  Nice!
>   

I hadn't though of it. Looks like a win from all directions.

It means we need to package eventfd for the external module, but that's 
easily done.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-05-14 12:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-10 12:46 [PATCH 00/10] in-kernel APIC v3 (kernel side) Gregory Haskins
     [not found] ` <20070510123831.10200.4769.stgit-sLgBBP33vUGnsjUZhwzVf9HuzzzSOjJt@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-10 12:46   ` [PATCH 01/10] KVM: Adds support for in-kernel mmio handlers Gregory Haskins
2007-05-10 12:46   ` [PATCH 02/10] KVM: VMX - fix interrupt checking on light-exit Gregory Haskins
2007-05-10 12:46   ` [PATCH 03/10] KVM: Add irqdevice object Gregory Haskins
2007-05-10 12:47   ` [PATCH 04/10] KVM: Adds ability to preempt an executing VCPU Gregory Haskins
2007-05-10 12:47   ` [PATCH 05/10] KVM: Adds ability to signal userspace using a file-descriptor Gregory Haskins
     [not found]     ` <20070510124706.10200.68571.stgit-sLgBBP33vUGnsjUZhwzVf9HuzzzSOjJt@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-13 13:00       ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]         ` <46470BF7.5080108-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 12:15           ` Gregory Haskins
     [not found]             ` <46481A61.BA47.005A.0-Et1tbQHTxzrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 12:22               ` Avi Kivity [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <46485488.2010608-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 14:00                   ` Gregory Haskins
     [not found]                     ` <46483320.BA47.005A.0-Et1tbQHTxzrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 14:42                       ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                         ` <4648756D.5040001-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 17:18                           ` Gregory Haskins
2007-05-14 16:52                   ` Davide Libenzi
     [not found]                     ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0705140948150.19682-GPJ85BhbkB8RepQJljzAVbITYcZ0+W3JAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 17:12                       ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                         ` <4648986B.9090403-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 17:15                           ` Davide Libenzi
     [not found]                             ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0705141013310.19682-GPJ85BhbkB8RepQJljzAVbITYcZ0+W3JAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 17:23                               ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                 ` <46489B12.8030807-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 19:01                                   ` Gregory Haskins
     [not found]                                     ` <464879A3.BA47.005A.0-Et1tbQHTxzrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 19:12                                       ` Davide Libenzi
     [not found]                                         ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0705141207070.19682-GPJ85BhbkB8RepQJljzAVbITYcZ0+W3JAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 20:18                                           ` Gregory Haskins
     [not found]                                             ` <46488BCD.BA47.005A.0-Et1tbQHTxzrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 21:32                                               ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-10 12:47   ` [PATCH 06/10] KVM: Add support for in-kernel LAPIC model Gregory Haskins
2007-05-10 12:47   ` [PATCH 07/10] KVM: Adds support for real NMI injection on VMX processors Gregory Haskins
2007-05-10 12:47   ` [PATCH 08/10] KVM: Adds basic plumbing to support TPR shadow features Gregory Haskins
2007-05-10 12:47   ` [PATCH 09/10] KVM: Add statistics from interrupt subsystem Gregory Haskins
     [not found]     ` <20070510124726.10200.53053.stgit-sLgBBP33vUGnsjUZhwzVf9HuzzzSOjJt@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 11:17       ` Avi Kivity
2007-05-10 12:47   ` [PATCH 10/10] KVM: Adds support for TPR shadowing under VMX processors Gregory Haskins
2007-05-10 13:07   ` [PATCH 00/10] in-kernel APIC v3 (kernel side) Dor Laor
     [not found]     ` <64F9B87B6B770947A9F8391472E032160BBA66AF-yEcIvxbTEBqsx+V+t5oei8rau4O3wl8o3fe8/T/H7NteoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-10 13:20       ` Gregory Haskins
     [not found]         ` <4642E39D.BA47.005A.0-Et1tbQHTxzrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-13  8:00           ` Dor Laor
     [not found]             ` <64F9B87B6B770947A9F8391472E032160BC745D3-yEcIvxbTEBqsx+V+t5oei8rau4O3wl8o3fe8/T/H7NteoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-13 13:59               ` Gregory Haskins
     [not found]                 ` <4646E16D.BA47.005A.0-Et1tbQHTxzrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-13 14:06                   ` Dor Laor
     [not found]                     ` <64F9B87B6B770947A9F8391472E032160BC74642-yEcIvxbTEBqsx+V+t5oei8rau4O3wl8o3fe8/T/H7NteoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 12:37                       ` Gregory Haskins
     [not found]                         ` <46481FC0.BA47.005A.0-Et1tbQHTxzrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 13:04                           ` Dor Laor
2007-05-13 12:38           ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]             ` <464706BF.6000808-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 11:59               ` Gregory Haskins
     [not found]                 ` <464816AB.BA47.005A.0-Et1tbQHTxzrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 12:05                   ` Dor Laor
2007-05-14 12:14                   ` Avi Kivity
2007-05-10 13:32       ` Gregory Haskins
2007-05-13 13:10   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]     ` <46470E58.2040208-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 12:23       ` Gregory Haskins
     [not found]         ` <46481C4B.BA47.005A.0-Et1tbQHTxzrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 12:24           ` Avi Kivity

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