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From: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty-8n+1lVoiYb80n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 1/3] virtio	infrastructure
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 14:25:32 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4663F6AC.7070100@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1180955964.25878.27.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>

Rusty Russell wrote:
>   
>> Networking hardware generally services descriptors in a FIFO manner.
>>     
>
> Well, ethernet guarantees order.  Not sure about others tho...
>
>   

OT: Does that hold for bonded interfaces too?

>> virtio may not (for example, it may offload copies of larger packets to 
>> a dma engine such as I/OAT, resulting in a delay, but copy smaller 
>> packets immediately).  that means that there will be some mismatch 
>> between virtio drivers and real hardware drivers.
>>     
>
> I think your point is that the completion bitmap (or indeed, the current
> approach) does not maintain order?  Hmm, this is more convincing to me
> than cache arguments, since some devices might want ordering and want
> more than a single io in flight.
>   

Well, it wasn't really; sorry for being unclear.  My point was that 
virtio interfaces will not match hardware exactly.

My objection is to "scan all slots, occupied or not, for completion".  I 
think virtio should present completed descriptors without the need for 
scanning, even if it means looking a bit different from a typical 
ethernet driver.


-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-06-04 11:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-31 12:19 [PATCH RFC 1/3] virtio infrastructure Rusty Russell
2007-05-31 12:20 ` [PATCH RFC 2/3] virtio infrastructure: example net driver Rusty Russell
     [not found] ` <1180613947.11133.58.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-31 12:20   ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]     ` <1180614044.11133.61.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-31 12:21       ` [PATCH RFC 3/3] virtio infrastructure: example block driver Rusty Russell
     [not found]         ` <1180614091.11133.63.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-31 12:57           ` Carsten Otte
2007-05-31 15:02             ` [kvm-devel] " Troy Benjegerdes
     [not found]             ` <465EC637.7020504-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-31 15:02               ` Troy Benjegerdes
     [not found]                 ` <20070531150206.GB6474-na1kE3HDu0idQnJuSAr7PQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-31 17:01                   ` Carsten Otte
2007-05-31 17:36                     ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
     [not found]                     ` <465EFF72.5070100-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-31 17:36                       ` Avi Kivity
2007-05-31 17:01                 ` [kvm-devel] " Carsten Otte
2007-05-31 23:39               ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]                 ` <1180654765.10999.6.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-01  7:10                   ` Carsten Otte
2007-06-01 13:13                     ` [kvm-devel] " Jens Axboe
     [not found]                     ` <465FC65C.6020905-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-01 13:13                       ` Jens Axboe
     [not found]                         ` <20070601131315.GW32105-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-04 13:40                           ` Carsten Otte
2007-06-04 13:43                             ` [kvm-devel] " Jens Axboe
     [not found]                             ` <4664164A.40604-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-04 13:43                               ` Jens Axboe
2007-06-04 13:52                                 ` [kvm-devel] " Rusty Russell
     [not found]                                 ` <20070604134322.GC32105-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-04 13:52                                   ` Rusty Russell
2007-06-04 13:54                                     ` [kvm-devel] " Jens Axboe
     [not found]                                     ` <1180965161.25878.47.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-04 13:54                                       ` Jens Axboe
     [not found]                                         ` <20070604135433.GG32105-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-04 14:12                                           ` Carsten Otte
     [not found]                                             ` <46641DC9.5050600-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-04 14:31                                               ` Jens Axboe
2007-06-04 14:31                                             ` [kvm-devel] " Jens Axboe
2007-06-04 14:12                                         ` Carsten Otte
2007-06-04 13:40                         ` Carsten Otte
2007-06-02  9:28                       ` Rusty Russell
2007-06-04 12:53                         ` [kvm-devel] " Carsten Otte
     [not found]                         ` <1180776482.9228.22.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-04 12:53                           ` Carsten Otte
2007-06-02  9:28                     ` [kvm-devel] " Rusty Russell
2007-06-01  7:10                 ` Carsten Otte
2007-05-31 23:39             ` Rusty Russell
2007-05-31 12:57         ` Carsten Otte
2007-05-31 12:21     ` Rusty Russell
2007-05-31 12:53   ` [PATCH RFC 1/3] virtio infrastructure Carsten Otte
2007-05-31 13:01   ` Dor Laor
2007-06-02  6:30   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]     ` <46610E8D.10706-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-02  9:50       ` Rusty Russell
2007-06-03  5:28         ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
     [not found]         ` <1180777836.9228.44.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-03  5:28           ` Avi Kivity
2007-06-03 10:29             ` [kvm-devel] " Rusty Russell
     [not found]             ` <46625192.5020108-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-03 10:29               ` Rusty Russell
2007-06-03 11:39                 ` [Xen-devel] Re: [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
     [not found]                 ` <1180866540.17442.74.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-03 11:39                   ` [Xen-devel] " Avi Kivity
     [not found]                     ` <4662A86A.7010706-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-03 23:53                       ` Rusty Russell
2007-06-04  9:55                         ` [Xen-devel] Re: [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
     [not found]                         ` <1180914836.17442.104.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-04  9:55                           ` [Xen-devel] " Avi Kivity
2007-06-04 10:32                             ` [Xen-devel] Re: [kvm-devel] " Herbert Xu
2007-06-04 11:19                             ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]                             ` <4663E18D.4030007-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-04 10:32                               ` [Xen-devel] " Herbert Xu
2007-06-04 11:19                               ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]                                 ` <1180955964.25878.27.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-04 11:25                                   ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2007-06-04 11:40                                     ` [kvm-devel] " Rusty Russell
2007-06-04 12:17                                     ` Herbert Xu
     [not found]                                     ` <4663F6AC.7070100-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-04 11:40                                       ` Rusty Russell
2007-06-04 12:17                                       ` Herbert Xu
2007-06-04 11:25                                 ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2007-06-03 23:53                     ` [Xen-devel] " Rusty Russell
2007-06-02  9:50     ` Rusty Russell
2007-05-31 12:53 ` Carsten Otte
2007-05-31 13:01 ` Dor Laor
2007-06-01 23:35 ` [Xen-devel] " Santos, Jose Renato G
2007-06-01 23:35 ` Santos, Jose Renato G
2007-06-02 10:12   ` Rusty Russell
2007-06-04 21:14     ` [Xen-devel] " Santos, Jose Renato G
     [not found]     ` <1180779167.9228.66.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-04 21:14       ` Santos, Jose Renato G
2007-06-04 21:19         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-06-05  1:44         ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]         ` <08CA2245AFCF444DB3AC415E47CC40AFBD2FD4-VylnnfFjWmASZAcGdq5asR6epYMZPwEe5NbjCUgZEJk@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-04 21:19           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-06-05  2:05             ` Santos, Jose Renato G
     [not found]             ` <466481ED.8050209-TSDbQ3PG+2Y@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-05  2:05               ` Santos, Jose Renato G
2007-06-05  2:27                 ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]                 ` <08CA2245AFCF444DB3AC415E47CC40AFBD30B4-VylnnfFjWmASZAcGdq5asR6epYMZPwEe5NbjCUgZEJk@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-05  2:27                   ` Rusty Russell
2007-06-05  2:49                     ` Santos, Jose Renato G
2007-06-05  2:49                     ` Santos, Jose Renato G
2007-06-05  1:44           ` [Xen-devel] " Rusty Russell
2007-06-05  2:39             ` Santos, Jose Renato G
     [not found]             ` <1181007892.25878.112.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-05  2:39               ` Santos, Jose Renato G
2007-06-02 10:12   ` Rusty Russell
2007-06-02  6:30 ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-05-31 12:19 Rusty Russell

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