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From: Bernd Schmidt <bernds_cb1@t-online.de>
To: Mike Frysinger <vapier.adi@gmail.com>
Cc: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	"Wu, Bryan" <Bryan.Wu@analog.com>,
	Greg Ungerer <gerg@snapgear.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH, RFD]: Unbreak no-mmu mmap
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 01:04:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <466DD4E1.4030305@t-online.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8bd0f97a0706111509s161c6287pdce612946194d87@mail.gmail.com>

Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On 6/9/07, Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 03:53:49PM +0200, Bernd Schmidt wrote:
>> > 2. It is no longer possible to get blocks smaller than a page through
>> >    mmap.  This behaviour was used by simplemalloc, which is an insane
>> >    way of implementing malloc on nommu systems and hopefully not used
>> >    by anyone anymore.
>>
>> That's worrisome. Breaking existing apps/libraries seems like a bad
>> idea.
> 
> it isnt breaking anything ... simplemalloc() will continue to execute
> in newer kernels

While that's true, it'll have an even bigger memory overhead than it
already does (simplemalloc, by trapping into the kernel and creating
vm_area/vm_list structures for every malloc call, has huge overheads in
both time and space).
I've posted this as an RFD to get a feeling for whether we can change
behaviour here - I do expect that nommu embedded systems are less
constrained by backwards compatibility considerations, but I'd like to
hear from other embedded users whether this is a change they'd welcome.


Bernd
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  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-11 23:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-08 13:53 [PATCH, RFD]: Unbreak no-mmu mmap Bernd Schmidt
2007-06-09 19:10 ` Matt Mackall
2007-06-11 21:08   ` Robin Getz
2007-06-11 22:09   ` Mike Frysinger
2007-06-11 23:04     ` Bernd Schmidt [this message]
2007-06-11 23:22       ` Mike Frysinger
2007-06-19 23:26 ` Robin Getz
2007-06-20  2:38   ` Bryan Wu
2007-06-20  3:00 ` Paul Mundt
2007-06-20  3:18   ` Bryan Wu
2007-06-27  5:50     ` Greg Ungerer
2007-06-22 12:59 ` David Howells
2007-06-22 13:35 ` David Howells
2007-06-22 14:29 ` [PATCH] NOMMU: " David Howells
2007-08-01 12:29 ` [PATCH, RFD]: " David Howells
2007-08-03 14:03 ` [PATCH] NOMMU: Separate out VMAs David Howells
2007-08-07 13:12   ` Bernd Schmidt
2007-08-07 13:17     ` David Howells
2007-08-07 13:21       ` David Howells
2007-08-07 13:37         ` Bernd Schmidt
2007-08-07 14:03           ` David Howells
2007-08-17 11:49         ` Bernd Schmidt
2007-08-20 15:12           ` David Howells
2007-08-20 16:02             ` Bernd Schmidt

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