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From: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
To: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
Cc: Netfilter Development Mailinglist <netfilter-devel@lists.netfilter.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] add TCP protocol state event groups
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 16:13:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4677E47F.7010004@netfilter.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4677DB3F.8010901@trash.net>

Patrick McHardy wrote:
> Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote:
>> [CTNETLINK] add TCP protocol state event groups
>>
>> This patch adds per-protocol state event groups, so one can only listen to a 
>> certain TCP state change such as ESTABLISHED. Although such per-state message
>> filtering could be done in userspace, we save CPU cycles since the kernel does
>> not need to build and delivery messages that will be later discarded in 
>> userspace. This patch is particularly useful for conntrackd.
> 
> I can see that this is useful, but one group per protocol state
> sounds rather excessive, I would expect that we could group them
> more logically, maybe "connection setup, teardown and updates"?
> Which states is conntrackd particulary interested in?

Well, why just save a couple of groups if we've got 2^32 event groups?
Moreover, per protocol state seems to me the most fine-grain and
flexible solution. Depending on the replication schema I might be
interested in different states.

> I would also like to hear from Holger whether his conntrack daemon
> could make use of a mechnism like this too and if the filtering
> capabilities you propose will do.

I'm sure he will benefit of it. Currently there are two main CPU cycle
consumers: event delivery and network transmission, and it is linked to
the number of messages generated. Not surprisingly, if we reduce the
number of messages generated, we reduce CPU consumption. Sysadmins may
enable this tradeoff. BTW, where's Holger's code? :)

I have a paper here on conntrackd that I can't release yet. Would you be
interested in reviewing it? In return, you'll see all the work that I've
currently done. Do you have some minor spare cycle in your busy agenda? :)

>> Signed-off-by: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
>>
>> --- net-2.6.git.orig/net/netfilter/nf_conntrack_netlink.c	2007-06-11 02:31:08.000000000 +0200
>> +++ net-2.6.git/net/netfilter/nf_conntrack_netlink.c	2007-06-11 02:38:00.000000000 +0200
> 
>> @@ -317,7 +331,8 @@ static int ctnetlink_conntrack_event(str
>>  	struct sk_buff *skb;
>>  	unsigned int type;
>>  	sk_buff_data_t b;
>> -	unsigned int flags = 0, group;
>> +	unsigned int flags = 0, group, proto_group;
>> +	bool proto_group_has_listener = false;
>>  
>>  	/* ignore our fake conntrack entry */
>>  	if (ct == &nf_conntrack_untracked)
>> @@ -336,7 +351,11 @@ static int ctnetlink_conntrack_event(str
>>  	} else
>>  		return NOTIFY_DONE;
>>  
>> -	if (!nfnetlink_has_listeners(group))
>> +	proto_group = proto_event_group(ct);
>> +	if (proto_group != NFNLGRP_NONE && nfnetlink_has_listeners(proto_group))
>> +		proto_group_has_listener = true;
>> +
>> +	if (!proto_group_has_listener && !nfnetlink_has_listeners(group))
>>  		return NOTIFY_DONE;
>>  
>>  	skb = alloc_skb(NLMSG_GOODSIZE, GFP_ATOMIC);
>> @@ -396,7 +415,11 @@ static int ctnetlink_conntrack_event(str
>>  	}
>>  
>>  	nlh->nlmsg_len = skb->tail - b;
>> +	if (proto_group_has_listener)
>> +		atomic_inc(&skb->users);
>>  	nfnetlink_send(skb, 0, group, 0);
> 
> This will always send to the main group even if only the proto group
> has listeners.

I can improve that. Anyway, AFAIK the main cost here is the message
allocation and setup. Since we have already do it for the protocol
group, netlink will just notice itself that there's no listeners for
that event just a bit later.

-- 
The dawn of the fourth age of Linux firewalling is coming; a time of
great struggle and heroic deeds -- J.Kadlecsik got inspired by J.Morris

  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-19 14:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-11 18:05 [PATCH] add TCP protocol state event groups Pablo Neira Ayuso
2007-06-19 13:33 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-19 14:13   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso [this message]
2007-06-19 14:44     ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-20 17:17       ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2007-06-20 17:40         ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-21 15:47           ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2007-06-21 16:04             ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-21 19:11               ` states worth to replicate [was Re: [PATCH] add TCP protocol state event groups] Pablo Neira Ayuso
2007-06-22 12:49                 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-07-02  9:40   ` [PATCH] add TCP protocol state event groups Holger Eitzenberger
2007-07-02 15:36     ` Patrick McHardy

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