* Support of meta-kde for Poky
@ 2012-03-26 12:55 Samuel Stirtzel
2012-03-26 13:08 ` Koen Kooi
2012-03-26 13:19 ` Paul Eggleton
0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Samuel Stirtzel @ 2012-03-26 12:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: yocto
Hi,
the development of meta-kde has come to a point where kde-applications
can be tested (and maybe used).
Status of meta-kde:
Most common applications work, for example:
Calligra (not all of the toolkit), Kate, KCalc, Konqueror, Kwin &
Kwin_gles (KDE window manager), Okular and the applications from
KDE-baseapps.
Plasma Active (and Desktop) do not work correctly, but I'm working on it.
Plasma Netbook seems to work, but it needs more testing.
Involving the community:
As the development of meta-kde advanced to a point where developers
can use the layer to port KDE applications.
I'd like to invite others to test the layer, port their favorite KDE
applications and express their opinions about the current status.
Feel free to ask questions and suggest applications to be ported.
meta-kde has no mailing list, so I'm looking for a list to host the
discussion, any suggestions?
Current issues with Poky:
The giflib recipe is not contained in Poky.
Is this based on a design decision, or just because no one needs it?
As a meta-kde developer I don't want to limit the testing of meta-kde.
Would it be feasible to add giflib to Poky?
In this case I'm welcoming your suggestions.
According to Robert Yang this is the only dependency missing in Poky.
If there will be more missing dependencies in the future. adding a
meta-kde-poky compatibility layer would be a better solution.
--
Regards
Samuel
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* Re: Support of meta-kde for Poky
2012-03-26 12:55 Support of meta-kde for Poky Samuel Stirtzel
@ 2012-03-26 13:08 ` Koen Kooi
2012-03-26 13:19 ` Paul Eggleton
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From: Koen Kooi @ 2012-03-26 13:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Samuel Stirtzel; +Cc: yocto
Op 26 mrt. 2012, om 07:55 heeft Samuel Stirtzel het volgende geschreven:
> Hi,
> the development of meta-kde has come to a point where kde-applications
> can be tested (and maybe used).
>
> Status of meta-kde:
> Most common applications work, for example:
> Calligra (not all of the toolkit), Kate, KCalc, Konqueror, Kwin &
> Kwin_gles (KDE window manager), Okular and the applications from
> KDE-baseapps.
>
> Plasma Active (and Desktop) do not work correctly, but I'm working on it.
> Plasma Netbook seems to work, but it needs more testing.
>
>
> Involving the community:
> As the development of meta-kde advanced to a point where developers
> can use the layer to port KDE applications.
> I'd like to invite others to test the layer, port their favorite KDE
> applications and express their opinions about the current status.
> Feel free to ask questions and suggest applications to be ported.
>
> meta-kde has no mailing list, so I'm looking for a list to host the
> discussion, any suggestions?
>
>
>
> Current issues with Poky:
> The giflib recipe is not contained in Poky.
> Is this based on a design decision, or just because no one needs it?
>
> As a meta-kde developer I don't want to limit the testing of meta-kde.
> Would it be feasible to add giflib to Poky?
> In this case I'm welcoming your suggestions.
Just add meta-oe to the poky stack. This is how the layer model is supposed to work.
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* Re: Support of meta-kde for Poky
2012-03-26 12:55 Support of meta-kde for Poky Samuel Stirtzel
2012-03-26 13:08 ` Koen Kooi
@ 2012-03-26 13:19 ` Paul Eggleton
2012-03-26 13:30 ` Paul Eggleton
2012-03-27 9:07 ` Samuel Stirtzel
1 sibling, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Paul Eggleton @ 2012-03-26 13:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Samuel Stirtzel; +Cc: yocto
On Monday 26 March 2012 14:55:40 Samuel Stirtzel wrote:
> the development of meta-kde has come to a point where kde-applications
> can be tested (and maybe used).
>
> Status of meta-kde:
> Most common applications work, for example:
> Calligra (not all of the toolkit), Kate, KCalc, Konqueror, Kwin &
> Kwin_gles (KDE window manager), Okular and the applications from
> KDE-baseapps.
>
> Plasma Active (and Desktop) do not work correctly, but I'm working on it.
> Plasma Netbook seems to work, but it needs more testing.
>
>
> Involving the community:
> As the development of meta-kde advanced to a point where developers
> can use the layer to port KDE applications.
> I'd like to invite others to test the layer, port their favorite KDE
> applications and express their opinions about the current status.
> Feel free to ask questions and suggest applications to be ported.
Great work! I will give it a try over the next few days and let you know how I
get on. (Sorry I know I promised to do this some weeks ago.)
> meta-kde has no mailing list, so I'm looking for a list to host the
> discussion, any suggestions?
Probably just the oe-devel list - if the volume of commits gets too high then
we can look at splitting off a separate one.
> Current issues with Poky:
> The giflib recipe is not contained in Poky.
> Is this based on a design decision, or just because no one needs it?
It's based upon nothing in OE-Core needing it. (The poky repository is just
OE-Core + bitbake + meta-yocto + yocto-docs).
> As a meta-kde developer I don't want to limit the testing of meta-kde.
It should be OK to use meta-oe with Poky, and therefore meta-kde can depend
upon it. However we are aware that meta-oe overlays a bunch of recipes that
ideally it should not. We're working (albeit slowly) to address these.
An alternative in the meantime would be to add giflib to meta-kde, this will do
no significant harm if it is already available in another layer (and giflib
doesn't look like it has really changed since 2008, so I don't think it will
be much of a maintenance burden).
As an aside it would be interesting to know why KDE requires additional gif
support from giflib when gif loading is already built into Qt (and we do enable
it in our Qt recipes).
Cheers,
Paul
--
Paul Eggleton
Intel Open Source Technology Centre
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* Re: Support of meta-kde for Poky
2012-03-26 13:19 ` Paul Eggleton
@ 2012-03-26 13:30 ` Paul Eggleton
2012-03-27 9:07 ` Samuel Stirtzel
1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Paul Eggleton @ 2012-03-26 13:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: yocto
On Monday 26 March 2012 14:19:56 Paul Eggleton wrote:
> On Monday 26 March 2012 14:55:40 Samuel Stirtzel wrote:
> > meta-kde has no mailing list, so I'm looking for a list to host the
> > discussion, any suggestions?
>
> Probably just the oe-devel list - if the volume of commits gets too high
Er, that should have been the volume of *messages*. Sorry.
Cheers,
Paul
--
Paul Eggleton
Intel Open Source Technology Centre
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* Re: Support of meta-kde for Poky
2012-03-26 13:19 ` Paul Eggleton
2012-03-26 13:30 ` Paul Eggleton
@ 2012-03-27 9:07 ` Samuel Stirtzel
2012-03-27 10:04 ` Paul Eggleton
1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Samuel Stirtzel @ 2012-03-27 9:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Paul Eggleton; +Cc: yocto
2012/3/26 Paul Eggleton <paul.eggleton@linux.intel.com>:
> On Monday 26 March 2012 14:55:40 Samuel Stirtzel wrote:
>> the development of meta-kde has come to a point where kde-applications
>> can be tested (and maybe used).
>>
>> Status of meta-kde:
>> Most common applications work, for example:
>> Calligra (not all of the toolkit), Kate, KCalc, Konqueror, Kwin &
>> Kwin_gles (KDE window manager), Okular and the applications from
>> KDE-baseapps.
>>
>> Plasma Active (and Desktop) do not work correctly, but I'm working on it.
>> Plasma Netbook seems to work, but it needs more testing.
>>
>>
>> Involving the community:
>> As the development of meta-kde advanced to a point where developers
>> can use the layer to port KDE applications.
>> I'd like to invite others to test the layer, port their favorite KDE
>> applications and express their opinions about the current status.
>> Feel free to ask questions and suggest applications to be ported.
>
> Great work! I will give it a try over the next few days and let you know how I
> get on. (Sorry I know I promised to do this some weeks ago.)
>
>> meta-kde has no mailing list, so I'm looking for a list to host the
>> discussion, any suggestions?
>
> Probably just the oe-devel list - if the volume of commits gets too high then
> we can look at splitting off a separate one.
Do I need an official statement, and from whom can I get it in case?
>
>> Current issues with Poky:
>> The giflib recipe is not contained in Poky.
>> Is this based on a design decision, or just because no one needs it?
>
> It's based upon nothing in OE-Core needing it. (The poky repository is just
> OE-Core + bitbake + meta-yocto + yocto-docs).
>
>> As a meta-kde developer I don't want to limit the testing of meta-kde.
>
> It should be OK to use meta-oe with Poky, and therefore meta-kde can depend
> upon it. However we are aware that meta-oe overlays a bunch of recipes that
> ideally it should not. We're working (albeit slowly) to address these.
>
> An alternative in the meantime would be to add giflib to meta-kde, this will do
> no significant harm if it is already available in another layer (and giflib
> doesn't look like it has really changed since 2008, so I don't think it will
> be much of a maintenance burden).
My assumption is that the initial request, that started this
discussion, was made with the idea in mind not to include any
"overhead" from meta-oe.
But TBH I don't know exactly.
Too bad it isn't possible to include only a subset of recipes from a layer..
But it just looks like layers don't work like that.
>
> As an aside it would be interesting to know why KDE requires additional gif
> support from giflib when gif loading is already built into Qt (and we do enable
> it in our Qt recipes).
The KDE gifloader code is from 2004.
It looks like this was a possible solution and it worked, so they kept it.
But since it is KHTML depending on giflib, KDE could replace it with
Webkit in the "future" (this is really old news).
>
> Cheers,
> Paul
>
> --
>
> Paul Eggleton
> Intel Open Source Technology Centre
--
Regards
Samuel
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* Re: Support of meta-kde for Poky
2012-03-27 9:07 ` Samuel Stirtzel
@ 2012-03-27 10:04 ` Paul Eggleton
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Paul Eggleton @ 2012-03-27 10:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Samuel Stirtzel; +Cc: yocto
On Tuesday 27 March 2012 11:07:55 Samuel Stirtzel wrote:
> 2012/3/26 Paul Eggleton <paul.eggleton@linux.intel.com>:
> > On Monday 26 March 2012 14:55:40 Samuel Stirtzel wrote:
> >> meta-kde has no mailing list, so I'm looking for a list to host the
> >> discussion, any suggestions?
> >
> > Probably just the oe-devel list - if the volume of commits gets too high
> > then we can look at splitting off a separate one.
>
> Do I need an official statement, and from whom can I get it in case?
I don't think any is needed (at least I don't think anyone asked for any of
the other layers).
> My assumption is that the initial request, that started this
> discussion, was made with the idea in mind not to include any
> "overhead" from meta-oe.
>
> Too bad it isn't possible to include only a subset of recipes from a layer..
> But it just looks like layers don't work like that.
That's right, the layer is supposed to be used as a unit; which means those
units are supposed to be kept reasonably small and focused where possible.
meta-oe is the exception here, but we should continue to try to improve it.
> > As an aside it would be interesting to know why KDE requires additional
> > gif support from giflib when gif loading is already built into Qt (and we
> > do enable it in our Qt recipes).
>
> The KDE gifloader code is from 2004.
> It looks like this was a possible solution and it worked, so they kept it.
Fair enough.
> But since it is KHTML depending on giflib, KDE could replace it with
> Webkit in the "future" (this is really old news).
Right, I won't be holding my breath on that one ;)
Cheers,
Paul
--
Paul Eggleton
Intel Open Source Technology Centre
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