From: Vladislav Bolkhovitin <vst@vlnb.net>
To: david@lang.hm
Cc: "Pádraig Brady" <P@draigBrady.com>,
"Chris Mason" <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Btrfs: a copy on write, snapshotting FS
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:41:00 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4678E81C.5000608@vlnb.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0706191118180.25045@asgard.lang.hm>
david@lang.hm wrote:
>>> > 3. De-de-duplicate blocks on disk, i.e. copy them on write
>>> > > I suppose that de-duplication itself would be done by some user
>>> space
>>> > process that would scan files, determine blocks with the same data and
>>> > then de-duplicate them by using syscall or IOCTL (2).
>>> > > That would be very usable feature, which in most cases would
>>> allow to
>>> > shrink occupied disk space on 50-90%.
>>>
>>> Have you references for this number?
>>
>>
>> No, I've seen it somewhere and it well confirms with my own observations.
>>
>>> In my experience one gets a lot of benefit from
>>> the much simpler process of "de-duplication" of files.
>>
>>
>> Yes, sure, de-duplication on files level brings its benefits, but on
>> FS blocks level it would bring ever more benefits, because there are
>> many more or less big files, which are different as a whole, but with
>> a lot of the same blocks. Simple example of such files is UNIX-style
>> mail boxes on a mail server.
>
>
> unix style mail boxes would not be a good example of wins for
> sector-based de-duplication since the duplicate mail is not going to be
> sector aligned.
Yes, I realized that after I sent the e-mail. Handling of the same, but
not aligned, data in different files would need more complex logic.
Maybe too complex.
Vlad
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-06-20 8:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-06-12 16:10 [ANNOUNCE] Btrfs: a copy on write, snapshotting FS Chris Mason
2007-06-12 19:53 ` Mike Snitzer
2007-06-12 20:14 ` Chris Mason
2007-06-13 3:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-13 10:17 ` Chris Mason
2007-06-13 3:46 ` John Stoffel
2007-06-13 10:35 ` Chris Mason
2007-06-13 14:00 ` John Stoffel
2007-06-13 14:54 ` Chris Mason
2007-06-13 16:12 ` John Stoffel
2007-06-13 16:34 ` Chris Mason
2007-06-13 16:25 ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2007-06-14 18:20 ` Chuck Lever
2007-06-14 18:48 ` Chris Mason
2007-06-15 17:17 ` Chuck Lever
2007-06-14 18:29 ` Florian D.
2007-06-14 19:13 ` Chris Mason
2007-06-15 19:08 ` Florian D.
2007-06-15 19:11 ` Chris Mason
2007-06-15 20:46 ` Florian D.
2007-06-15 20:51 ` Chris Mason
2007-06-15 22:03 ` Florian D.
2007-06-16 0:54 ` Chris Mason
2007-06-16 9:31 ` Florian D.
2007-06-18 14:29 ` Chris Mason
2007-06-18 14:41 ` Chris Mason
2007-06-18 14:41 ` Chris Mason
2007-06-18 17:37 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2007-06-18 20:08 ` John Stoffel
2007-06-19 9:11 ` Pádraig Brady
2007-06-19 10:01 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2007-06-19 18:20 ` david
2007-06-20 8:41 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin [this message]
2007-06-19 12:04 ` Chris Mason
2007-06-19 12:04 ` Chris Mason
2007-06-19 14:00 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2007-06-19 14:00 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2007-06-19 18:24 ` david
2007-06-19 18:28 ` Philipp Matthias Hahn
2007-06-19 18:28 ` Philipp Matthias Hahn
2007-06-20 8:44 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2007-06-20 9:18 ` Ph. Marek
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-06-13 5:45 Albert Cahalan
2007-06-13 12:00 ` Chris Mason
2007-06-13 16:14 ` Albert Cahalan
2007-06-13 16:57 ` Chris Mason
2007-06-14 6:59 ` Albert Cahalan
2007-06-14 12:30 ` Chris Mason
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