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From: Andy Green <andy@warmcat.com>
To: Jiri Benc <jbenc@suse.cz>
Cc: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [WIP] mac80211: kill mgmt interface
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 00:27:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <467B097F.4030806@warmcat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070621151441.500d62d5@griffin.suse.cz>

Jiri Benc wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:45:19 +0200, Johannes Berg wrote:
>> On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 14:35 +0200, Jiri Benc wrote:
>>
>>> 1. I'm still not sure if using monitor interface for this purpose is a
>>> good idea. Given the fact we want to switch to user space MLME, this
>>> will mean that at least one monitor interface is always present. So we
>>> got rid of management interface just to introduce another user visible
>>> magic interface.
>> Well, that's not a bad point, but at least it's not created via magic
>> ioctls etc.
> 
> That's true. Still, couldn't we find a better solution?

There probably isn't a better solution for passing actual packets back
and forth than an actual network interface.  They are made for the task,
solid and well debugged, and can deal with heavy traffic cleanly.

> I know that netlink isn't designed for this kind of things. But if we
> don't have any other idea, I'd still prefer that over a dedicated
> network interface.

If the only objection to the network interface is purely cosmetic in
usermode, and there is no technical complaint about it otherwise, maybe
changing it is not the right answer.  For example if the spawned
interface naming followed a convention like .wlan0_mlme consistently,
usermode apps could filter on that.  Although I admit the 2001 release
date of latest net-tools does not hold out much hope for ifconfig...

http://www.tazenda.demon.co.uk/phil/net-tools/

-Andy

  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-21 23:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-21  9:42 [WIP] mac80211: kill mgmt interface Johannes Berg
2007-06-21 12:35 ` Jiri Benc
2007-06-21 12:45   ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-21 13:14     ` Jiri Benc
2007-06-21 23:27       ` Andy Green [this message]
2007-06-22 13:45       ` Jiri Benc
2007-06-22 14:29         ` Andy Green
2007-06-22 15:30           ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-22 15:49             ` Jiri Benc
2007-06-22 20:20               ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-23  5:58                 ` Andy Green
2007-06-23  6:53                   ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-23  9:00                     ` Andy Green
2007-06-23 21:48                       ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-24  8:51                         ` Andy Green
2007-06-24  9:38                           ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-23 11:44                     ` Jiri Benc
2007-06-23 12:23                       ` Andy Green
2007-06-23 21:51                         ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-24  8:39                           ` Andy Green
2007-06-24 10:46                             ` Jiri Benc
2007-06-22 15:39           ` Jiri Benc
2007-06-22 17:00             ` Andy Green
2007-06-23  8:29               ` Andy Green
2007-06-23 21:41                 ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-21 13:35 ` Jouni Malinen
2007-06-22  5:05   ` Michael Wu
2007-06-22 10:12     ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-23  7:08   ` Johannes Berg
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-06-21 21:50 Joerg Pommnitz
2007-06-22  9:10 ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-22 13:15 ` Jiri Benc
2007-07-01  1:48   ` Cohen, Guy
2007-07-02 13:38 AW: " Joerg Pommnitz
2007-07-02 13:53 ` Jiri Benc
2007-07-04  6:13   ` Tomas Winkler

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