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From: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
To: hadi@cyberus.ca
Cc: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@intel.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	"linux-acpi@vger" <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	lenb@kernel.org, Thomas Graf <tgraf@suug.ch>
Subject: Re: Fwd: [PATCH] [-mm] ACPI: export ACPI events via netlink
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:12:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46850546.1050606@trash.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1183122172.5188.24.camel@localhost>

jamal wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-29-06 at 14:48 +0200, Patrick McHardy wrote:
> 
>>Johannes Berg wrote:
> 
> 
>>>Hmm, another thought: since we have 32 bits for group numbers and 16
>>>bits for families we could just reserve 16 bits for groups within each
>>>family. Or do we get trouble with that because in some place there's a
>>>group bitmap or such?
>>
>>
>>Yes, af_netlink has a bitmap per socket that is subscribed to any group.
> 
> 
> 
> I think this is the challenge. The groups belong to a global namespace.
> i.e when you do a socket bind to group - it is unique regardless of the
> family.
> Our philosophy in genetlink is to have dynamic resources allocated and
> released - remember the real reason we even have this is because we were
> running out of numbers ;->


That was more of a rumour :) We have 2^32-1 groups and I think 256
families, of which about 20 are used.

> So while the static allocation of 16 bits per group will work (famous
> last words "noone will ever need more than 640K of RAM";->) it will be
> cleaner imo to allow dynamic allocation/release.
> Maybe a mix (of a few static and mostly dynamic) as Patrick says - but
> that would mean more coding for you ;-> Actually i like the idea of at
> least your ID being your static mcast group and the rest are in the
> dynamic pool (Hey, thanks Patrick;->). This means the first 2^16 are
> static/reserved and if you want more groups, you register for them.


I wouldn't reserve any, just hand them out as needed. Otherwise we'll
run into problems with the af_netlink bitmaps.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-29 13:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-22  9:47 [PATCH] [-mm] ACPI: export ACPI events via netlink Zhang Rui
2007-05-22 10:05 ` Samuel Ortiz
2007-05-22 10:10   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-05-22 11:03 ` jamal
2007-05-23  1:17   ` Zhang Rui
2007-05-27  9:40   ` Zhang Rui
     [not found]     ` <4466a10705270629h31977813hd2fc8330bcd87f78@mail.gmail.com>
2007-05-27 13:34       ` Fwd: " jamal
2007-06-14  8:59         ` Zhang Rui
2007-06-14 11:28           ` jamal
2007-06-15  1:01             ` Zhang Rui
2007-06-15 10:26               ` jamal
2007-06-18 15:01               ` jamal
2007-06-19  3:32                 ` Zhang Rui
2007-06-25 22:40                   ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-26 13:33                     ` jamal
2007-06-26 13:42                       ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-27 23:24                     ` jamal
2007-06-28  9:45                       ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-29 11:17                         ` jamal
2007-06-29 11:28                           ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-29 11:48                             ` jamal
2007-06-29 11:58                               ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-29 11:51                         ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-29 11:59                           ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-29 12:04                             ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-29 12:01                           ` jamal
2007-06-29 12:09                             ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-29 12:46                           ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-29 12:48                             ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-29 12:51                               ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-29 13:02                               ` jamal
2007-06-29 13:12                                 ` Patrick McHardy [this message]
2007-06-29 13:27                                   ` jamal
2007-06-29 13:32                                     ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-29 13:13                                 ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-29 12:57                       ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-29 13:11                         ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-29 13:15                           ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-29 13:23                             ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-29 13:34                               ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-29 13:44                                 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-29 13:49                                   ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-29 13:53                                     ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-29 14:05                                       ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-29 14:18                                         ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-29 14:56                                           ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-30 15:32                                             ` jamal
2007-07-02  8:43                                               ` Johannes Berg
2007-07-02 12:56                                                 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-07-02 14:34                                                   ` Johannes Berg
2007-07-02 14:38                                                     ` Patrick McHardy
2007-07-02 14:48                                                       ` Johannes Berg
2007-07-02 22:12                                                         ` Johannes Berg
2007-07-03 10:08                                                           ` [PATCH] netlink: allocate group bitmaps dynamically Johannes Berg
2007-07-03 12:05                                                             ` Patrick McHardy
2007-07-03 14:09                                                               ` Johannes Berg
2007-07-03 14:11                                                                 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-07-03 14:32                                                                   ` Johannes Berg
2007-07-03 23:13                                                                   ` Johannes Berg
2007-07-03 10:09                                                           ` [PATCH] netlink: allow removing multicast groups Johannes Berg
2007-07-03 10:10                                                           ` [PATCH] generic netlink: dynamic " Johannes Berg
2007-07-03 11:56                                                           ` Fwd: [PATCH] [-mm] ACPI: export ACPI events via netlink Patrick McHardy
2007-06-29 13:24                             ` jamal
2007-06-29 13:11                         ` jamal
2007-06-19 11:30                 ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-19 16:20                   ` jamal
2007-06-20 11:25                     ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-21 15:47                       ` jamal
2007-06-22 10:09                         ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-25 17:08                           ` jamal
2007-06-26  8:50                             ` Johannes Berg

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