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From: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [kvm-devel] [PATCH][RFC] kvm-scheduler integration
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 09:39:43 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4691D82F.3030401@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1183937563.6005.365.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Rusty Russell wrote:
> On Sun, 2007-07-08 at 15:48 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>   
>> * Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_SCHED_KVM
>>>>> +static __read_mostly struct sched_kvm_hooks kvm_hooks;
>>>>> +#endif
>>>>>           
>>>> please just add a current->put_vcpu() function pointer instead of 
>>>> this hooks thing.
>>>>         
>>> Won't that increase task_struct (16 bytes on 64-bit) unnecessarily?  
>>> The function pointers are common to all virtual machines.
>>>       
>> well, this function pointer could then be reused by other virtual 
>> machines as well, couldnt it? If the task struct overhead is a problem 
>> (it really isnt, and it's dependent on CONFIG_KVM) then we could switch 
>> it around to a notifier-alike mechanism.
>>     
>
> OK, this patch is *ugly*.  Not that there's anything wrong with a patch
> which says "I'm going to preempt you", but making it kvm-specific is
> ugly.  ISTR times past where I wanted such a hook, although none spring
> immediately into my pre-coffee brain.
>
> I think a "struct preempt_ops *" and a "void *preempt_ops_data" inside
> every task struct is a better idea.  Call the config option
> PREEMPT_SCHED_HOOKS and now there's nothing kvm-specific about it...
>   

I considered that, but your proposal does not allow a single task to
have multiple preemption hooks installed (hookers?!).  Since in general
there's no reason to suppose that users would be mutually exclusive, we
need to have a struct hlist of these things.  All in all this seemed to
indicate that the second user should have the honor of figuring out that
stuff.

-- 
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.


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From: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty-8n+1lVoiYb80n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] kvm-scheduler integration
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 09:39:43 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4691D82F.3030401@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1183937563.6005.365.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>

Rusty Russell wrote:
> On Sun, 2007-07-08 at 15:48 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>   
>> * Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_SCHED_KVM
>>>>> +static __read_mostly struct sched_kvm_hooks kvm_hooks;
>>>>> +#endif
>>>>>           
>>>> please just add a current->put_vcpu() function pointer instead of 
>>>> this hooks thing.
>>>>         
>>> Won't that increase task_struct (16 bytes on 64-bit) unnecessarily?  
>>> The function pointers are common to all virtual machines.
>>>       
>> well, this function pointer could then be reused by other virtual 
>> machines as well, couldnt it? If the task struct overhead is a problem 
>> (it really isnt, and it's dependent on CONFIG_KVM) then we could switch 
>> it around to a notifier-alike mechanism.
>>     
>
> OK, this patch is *ugly*.  Not that there's anything wrong with a patch
> which says "I'm going to preempt you", but making it kvm-specific is
> ugly.  ISTR times past where I wanted such a hook, although none spring
> immediately into my pre-coffee brain.
>
> I think a "struct preempt_ops *" and a "void *preempt_ops_data" inside
> every task struct is a better idea.  Call the config option
> PREEMPT_SCHED_HOOKS and now there's nothing kvm-specific about it...
>   

I considered that, but your proposal does not allow a single task to
have multiple preemption hooks installed (hookers?!).  Since in general
there's no reason to suppose that users would be mutually exclusive, we
need to have a struct hlist of these things.  All in all this seemed to
indicate that the second user should have the honor of figuring out that
stuff.

-- 
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.


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  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-09  6:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-08 12:58 [PATCH][RFC] kvm-scheduler integration Avi Kivity
2007-07-08 12:58 ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-08 13:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-08 13:09   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-08 13:16   ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-08 13:36     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-08 13:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-08 13:35   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-08 13:41   ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-08 13:41     ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-08 13:48     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-08 13:48       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-08 13:53       ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-08 13:53         ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-08 13:59         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-08 13:59           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-08 15:13           ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-08 15:13             ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-10 11:18           ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-10 11:18             ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-10 11:30             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-10 11:30               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-08 23:32       ` [kvm-devel] " Rusty Russell
2007-07-08 23:32         ` Rusty Russell
2007-07-09  6:39         ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2007-07-09  6:39           ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-10  1:09           ` [kvm-devel] " Rusty Russell
2007-07-10  1:09             ` Rusty Russell
2007-07-10  5:53             ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2007-07-10  5:53               ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-10  6:47               ` [kvm-devel] " Rusty Russell
2007-07-10  6:47                 ` Rusty Russell
2007-07-10  7:19                 ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2007-07-10  7:19                   ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-10  8:01                   ` [kvm-devel] " Rusty Russell
2007-07-10  8:01                     ` Rusty Russell
2007-07-10  8:24                     ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2007-07-10  8:24                       ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-11  5:50                   ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2007-07-11  5:50                     ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-08 19:07 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-09  6:41   ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-09  6:41     ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-09  8:50 ` Shaohua Li
2007-07-09  8:50   ` Shaohua Li
2007-07-09  9:46   ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-09  9:46     ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-09 10:21     ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-09 10:21       ` Avi Kivity

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