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From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: Jeremy Maitin-Shepard <jbms@cmu.edu>
Cc: Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Hibernation Redesign
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:59:17 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46940F45.3090005@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871wfguq5g.fsf@jbms.ath.cx>

Jeremy Maitin-Shepard wrote:
> I suppose that would be an interesting thing to look into.  Another
> possible approach for having the kernel run in non-contiguous memory is
> to specify a memmap exactly to the kernel on the command-line, as I
> believe is done for the crashdump kernels currently. 

That sounds very fragile.  It would be better to extend the bootparams 
to contain that information.

> I recall reading, though, that even with the relocatable
> kernel support, there are still significant alignment requirements for
> loading the kernel.  In particular, I seem to recall that it is
> necessary to load an x86 kernel at maybe a 16MB boundary, and on other
> platforms the alignment requirements may be even more restrictive.

2MB for x86, I think.  But that's not really an issue if you use a 
P(seudo-physical) to M(achine) mapping, since you can choose any 
arrangement you like for the kernel.  The only restriction is that you 
can't use large pages any more, but I don't think that's an issue for a 
dump/hibernation kernel.

>   In
> addition, I recall that the Linux boot procedure on x86 and on some
> other platforms necessarily uses certain low-address memory, like the
> first 640K, which must be backed up regardless.
>   

Well, the traditional framebuffer/ISA space between 640k and 1M probably 
needs to be identity mapped, but I don't think there's anything in there 
which specifically needs to be save/restored (except framebuffer 
contents, maybe?).

> For these reasons, it seems that it would be easiest to simply backup
> the first e.g. 16 or 64 MB of memory, and not have to worry about
> loading the kernel at a non-standard address and specifying a
> complicated exact memmap.  Someone might prove me wrong, though.
>   

Yes, I suppose.  You're certain the old kernel's devices are completely 
quiescent at that point?

    J


  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-10 23:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-08 14:37 Hibernation Redesign (was: malicious filesystems (was Re: [linux-pm] Re: [PATCH] Remove process freezer from suspend to RAM) Al Boldi
2007-07-09  4:11 ` Hibernation Redesign Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-09  4:29   ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-09  4:36     ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-09  4:45       ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-09  4:54         ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-09  4:58           ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-09  5:33             ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-09  6:22           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-09 13:45       ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-09 14:02         ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-09 14:26           ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-09 15:09             ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-09 15:27               ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-09  4:39     ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-09 13:52       ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-09 15:30         ` Al Boldi
2007-07-10  1:29           ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-10  2:28           ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-10 14:57             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-10 17:25               ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-10 22:59                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2007-07-11  4:11                   ` Al Boldi
2007-07-11 10:27                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 10:42                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-11 11:04                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 11:11                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-11 11:50                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 11:54                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-11 12:00                                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 12:09                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-11 12:17                                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 12:27                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 12:29                                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-11 21:04                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12  9:15                                     ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-12 22:13                                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-11 12:19                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 12:49                                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 21:06                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 12:11                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 12:24                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-11 12:46                                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 12:55                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-11 13:16                               ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-11 20:48                                 ` Mark Lord
2007-07-11 21:14                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 22:17                                   ` Al Boldi
2007-07-11 22:34                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 23:12                                       ` Al Boldi
2007-07-11 23:31                                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-12  3:11                                           ` Al Boldi
2007-07-12 13:20                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-16  6:04                                           ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-12 20:29                                     ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-11 23:46                                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 17:55                               ` david
2007-07-11 22:54                                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-10 17:45               ` Al Boldi
2007-07-10 18:20                 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard

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