From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net>,
Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 17:37:37 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <469E8821.3070700@tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.0.999.0707180852540.27353@woody.linux-foundation.org>
Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Jul 2007, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
>> * Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net> wrote:
>>
>>> In several places I have code similar to:
>>>
>>> wait.tv_sec = time(NULL) + 1;
>>> wait.tv_nsec = 0;
>>>
>
> Ok, that definitely should work.
>
> Does the patch below help?
>
>
Spectacularly no! With this patch the "glitch1" script with multiple
scrolling windows has all xterms and glxgears stop totally dead for
~200ms once per second. I didn't properly test anything else after that.
Since the automount issue doesn't seem to start until something kicks it
off, I didn't see it but that doesn't mean it's fixed.
>> ah! It passes in a low-res time source into a high-res time interface
>> (pthread_cond_timedwait()). Could you change the time(NULL) + 1 to
>> time(NULL) + 2, or change it to:
>>
>> gettimeofday(&wait, NULL);
>> wait.tv_sec++;
>>
>
> This is wrong. It's wrong for two reasons:
>
> - it really shouldn't be needed. I don't think "time()" has to be
> *exactly* in sync, but I don't think it can be off by a third of a
> second or whatever (as the "30% CPU load" would seem to imply)
>
> - gettimeofday works on a timeval, pthread_cond_timedwait() works on a
> timespec.
>
> So if it actually makes a difference, it makes a difference for the
> *wrong* reason: the time is still totally nonsensical in the tv_nsec field
> (because it actually got filled in with msecs!), but now the tv_sec field
> is in sync, so it hides the bug.
>
> Anyway, hopefully the patch below might help. But we probably should make
> this whole thing a much more generic routine (ie we have our internal
> "getnstimeofday()" that still is missing the second-overflow logic, and
> that is quite possibly the one that triggers the "30% off" behaviour).
>
>
Hope that info helps.
> Ingo, I'd suggest:
> - ger rid of "timespec_add_ns()", or at least make it return a return
> value for when it overflows.
> - make all the people who overflow into tv_sec call a "fix_up_seconds()"
> thing that does the xtime overflow handling.
>
> Linus
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-18 21:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-06 17:33 [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19 Ingo Molnar
2007-07-08 17:46 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-07-09 22:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-17 21:44 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-07-10 8:08 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-07-11 17:26 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-07-11 20:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-12 12:41 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-07-13 21:19 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-07-16 21:34 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-07-16 21:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-17 4:22 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-07-17 5:01 ` Ian Kent
2007-07-17 7:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-17 11:17 ` Ian Kent
2007-07-17 17:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-18 1:24 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-07-18 6:19 ` Ian Kent
2007-07-17 16:30 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-07-17 21:16 ` David Schwartz
2007-07-18 5:59 ` Ian Kent
2007-07-18 7:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-18 13:50 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-07-18 17:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-18 16:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-18 17:31 ` Ian Kent
2007-07-18 21:37 ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2007-07-19 8:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-19 14:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-19 17:06 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-07-19 17:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-19 17:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-19 17:26 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-07-19 17:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-20 2:32 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-07-19 8:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-14 11:34 ` Markus
2007-07-14 15:11 ` Markus
2007-07-16 9:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-16 17:59 ` Markus
2007-07-17 7:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-17 13:06 ` Markus
2007-07-17 17:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-17 17:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-17 19:42 ` Markus
2007-07-17 20:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-17 20:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-17 20:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-17 22:03 ` Markus
2007-07-20 22:26 ` Markus
2007-07-22 11:59 ` konqueror suddenly vanishing, "konqueror: Fatal IO error: client killed" Ingo Molnar
2007-07-22 14:26 ` Markus
2007-08-09 17:34 ` [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19 Markus
2007-08-10 7:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-14 17:15 ` Markus
2007-10-17 0:02 ` Markus
2007-07-14 17:19 ` Ed Tomlinson
2007-07-15 5:25 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-07-15 12:53 ` Markus
2007-07-15 19:46 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-07-15 21:11 ` Markus
2007-07-16 6:42 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-07-16 8:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-16 9:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-16 11:10 ` Ed Tomlinson
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2007-07-08 20:51 Al Boldi
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