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From: Chris Snook <csnook@redhat.com>
To: Jerry Jiang <wjiang@resilience.com>
Cc: "Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday@mindspring.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: why are some atomic_t's not volatile, while most are?
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 10:12:40 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46B72C58.5030502@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070806123551.a6c3c154.wjiang@resilience.com>

Jerry Jiang wrote:
> Is there some feedback on this point ?
> 
> Thank you
> ./Jerry
> 
> On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 08:49:37 -0400 (EDT)
> "Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday@mindspring.com> wrote:
> 
>>   prompted by the earlier post on "volatile"s, is there a reason that
>> most atomic_t typedefs use volatile int's, while the rest don't?
>>
>> $ grep "typedef.*struct"  $(find . -name atomic.h)
>> ./include/asm-v850/atomic.h:typedef struct { int counter; } atomic_t;
>> ./include/asm-mips/atomic.h:typedef struct { volatile int counter; } atomic_t;
>> ./include/asm-mips/atomic.h:typedef struct { volatile long counter; } atomic64_t;
>> ...
>>
>>   etc, etc.  just curious.

If your architecture doesn't support SMP, the volatile keyword doesn't do 
anything except add a useless memory fetch.  Also, some SMP architectures (i386, 
x86_64, s390) provide sufficiently strong guarantees about memory access 
ordering that it's not necessary as long as you're using the appropriate 
locked/atomic instructions in the atomic operations.

	-- Chris

  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-06 17:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-01 12:49 why are some atomic_t's not volatile, while most are? Robert P. J. Day
2007-08-06  4:35 ` Jerry Jiang
2007-08-06 14:12   ` Chris Snook [this message]
2007-08-07 15:51     ` Chris Friesen
2007-08-07 20:32       ` Chris Snook
2007-08-07 21:02         ` Chris Friesen
2007-08-07 21:19           ` Chris Snook
2007-08-07 21:38             ` Chris Friesen
2007-08-07 22:02               ` Chris Snook
2007-08-07 22:46                 ` Chris Friesen
2007-08-07 22:06               ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-08-07 22:49                 ` Chris Friesen
2007-08-07 22:32               ` Zan Lynx
2007-08-08  1:31                 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-08  4:50                   ` Chris Friesen
2007-08-08  6:47                     ` Chris Snook
2007-08-08  8:16                       ` Jerry Jiang
2007-08-08  8:27                       ` Jerry Jiang
2007-08-08 20:54                         ` Chris Snook
2007-08-09 12:37                           ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-08-09 12:52                             ` Chris Snook
2007-08-09 18:02                               ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-08-09 18:04                                 ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-08-08  2:27         ` Jerry Jiang
2007-08-08  5:39           ` Chris Snook

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