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From: Chris Snook <csnook@redhat.com>
To: Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortel.com>
Cc: Jerry Jiang <wjiang@resilience.com>,
	"Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday@mindspring.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: why are some atomic_t's not volatile, while most are?
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 17:19:15 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46B8E1D3.8050501@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46B8DDF3.7050008@nortel.com>

Chris Friesen wrote:
> Chris Snook wrote:
> 
>> But if you're not using SMP, the only way you get a race condition is 
>> if your compiler is reordering instructions that have side effects 
>> which are invisible to the compiler.  This can happen with MMIO 
>> registers, but it's not an issue with an atomic_t we're declaring in 
>> real memory.
> 
> I refer back to the interrupt handler case.  Suppose we have:
> 
> while(!atomic_read(flag))
>      continue;
> 
> where flag is an atomic_t that is set in an interrupt handler, the 
> volatile may be necessary on some architectures to force the compiler to 
> re-read "flag" each time through the loop.
> 
> Without the "volatile", the compiler could be perfectly within its 
> rights to evaluate "flag" once and create an infinite loop.
> 
> Now I'm not trying to say that we should explictly use "volatile" in 
> common code, but that it is possible that it is required within the 
> arch-specific atomic_t accessors even on uniprocessor systems.
> 
> Chris

That's why we define atomic_read like so:

#define atomic_read(v)          ((v)->counter)

This avoids the aliasing problem, because the compiler must de-reference the 
pointer every time, which requires a memory fetch.  This is usually fast thanks 
to caching, and hardware cache invalidation enforces correctness when it does 
change.


  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-07 21:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-01 12:49 why are some atomic_t's not volatile, while most are? Robert P. J. Day
2007-08-06  4:35 ` Jerry Jiang
2007-08-06 14:12   ` Chris Snook
2007-08-07 15:51     ` Chris Friesen
2007-08-07 20:32       ` Chris Snook
2007-08-07 21:02         ` Chris Friesen
2007-08-07 21:19           ` Chris Snook [this message]
2007-08-07 21:38             ` Chris Friesen
2007-08-07 22:02               ` Chris Snook
2007-08-07 22:46                 ` Chris Friesen
2007-08-07 22:06               ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-08-07 22:49                 ` Chris Friesen
2007-08-07 22:32               ` Zan Lynx
2007-08-08  1:31                 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-08  4:50                   ` Chris Friesen
2007-08-08  6:47                     ` Chris Snook
2007-08-08  8:16                       ` Jerry Jiang
2007-08-08  8:27                       ` Jerry Jiang
2007-08-08 20:54                         ` Chris Snook
2007-08-09 12:37                           ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-08-09 12:52                             ` Chris Snook
2007-08-09 18:02                               ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-08-09 18:04                                 ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-08-08  2:27         ` Jerry Jiang
2007-08-08  5:39           ` Chris Snook

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